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NeXTSTEP

Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:47 pm

I just read this on the BBC News and it made me really excited!
Anyone who judges me for this gets a 24 hour ban, just kidding :lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22249490

For those of you who can’t be bothered to read the BBC article; Cern (the large hadron collider people) are trying to re-create the very first web site ever right down to the exact hardware and software that was being used.

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The machine was one of these above (the NeXT CUBE N1000) used by Sir Tim Berners-Lee who is largely credited as being the inventor of the Internet (he was the guy under the inflatable house during the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony).

This eBay article (link) has quite a lot of nice historical information about the machine and what software it ran.

Anyway, I didn't use a NeXT machine at any time. They were made by a company that Steve Jobs founded after he was forced out of Apple. The OS it ran was called NeXTSTEP and was a Unix-like system with some parts from BSD (wikipedia).

One of the things reading all this has highlighted is that we have apparently lost some features of the first Internet in modern browsers. There is some info on Tim Berners-Lee’s website where he explains some of these features (link).

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Apparently this gave a very different browsing experience since all visitors to a page could set up links and make small edits. A bit like how Wikipedia works now. So one of the aims of the project (http://first-website.web.cern.ch/) is to preserve this experience.

I am wondering if they are planning to put the original NeXT box on the web :o The browsing experience could only really be preserved if the client being used was one of the early browsers with all the features that have been lost.

Now... I wonder how hard it would be to resurrect the NeXTSTEP OS and get it to boot on a Raspberry Pi? :shock: Or at least port just the original browser which was called WorldWideWeb. Obviously I am just musing here.

Let me know what you all think.

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Re: NeXTSTEP

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Re: NeXTSTEP

Wed May 01, 2013 9:26 am

Nice one!
I think I have also found the source code for the first browser here;
http://www.w3.org/History/1991-WWW-NeXT/Implementation/

However;
Tim Berners-Lee wrote:This archive has the code, though the libwww code modules are soft links which no longer work. I haven't tried recompiling and linking it for years - so it is probably of historical interest only)

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Re: NeXTSTEP

Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:02 pm

Well this would be a joy.

Essentially being able to emulte a NexT cube or station (better still the colour version).

Whilst GNUStep is actaully quite nice, and I think that would be a good pi toolset, this would be an interesting way to go on a Pi 3

http://previous.alternative-system.com/

If you search you will find the orgional 68k mac has been compiled for the Pi 2 and again this may be usable on a pi3.

Here is a link

https://vimeo.com/62033644

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Re: NeXTSTEP

Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:42 pm

I'm running gnustep on a Pi3:
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It performs well, could it be usable on a Pi2?

This evokes nostalgia; I used a NeXT cube when they came out. :D
Looking at software that is still kicking around; having Interface Builder would be nice.
Anybody want to fabricate cute little black cubes to house Pi3s? :P

ps. what this site and community are doing is brilliant. Show kids ancestor operating systems, so they will understand that desktop environments predate Apple and Microsoft! And haven't actually changed that much... it'll be they who will do that.
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Re: NeXTSTEP

Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:33 pm

With a little tweaking, TextEdit and Terminal, from the Backbone project, can be added.
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Re: NeXTSTEP

Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:15 pm

rhaleblian wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:33 pm
With a little tweaking, TextEdit and Terminal, from the Backbone project, can be added.
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Hi,

Where you able to get anymore objects running? i'm really interesting in making my Raspberry Pi 4 a NeXTCube that runs Librarian and is able to run sound files (*.snd) as a sort of gift/legacy to my son. I have a NeXTStation Mono Turbo and love it. I also have Previous running a few places and it's great on Mac OS.

thanks,
Mark

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