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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:15 am

Hurrah!

Heartiest congratulations, and BIG thanks for all the effort in resolving this so quickly!

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:57 am

That's great news! And a great effort, compliance testing is certainly least favourite job for my colleagues, even when the product passes.

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:43 pm

Congratulations folks!! Can't wait to get my Pi board!

Delighted for you all!

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:05 pm

Well done team!
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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:46 pm

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Tried to post this as a comment on the homepage, but your comment system wouldn't let me – kept insisting on the password even though I'd put it in.


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Workaround2: save your comment, hit reload, paste your comment where you want it, copy the password and hit submit.
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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:35 pm

So which country/region had the strictest requirements for passing testing?
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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:05 pm

Congratulations!  Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

One question though: who supplied the hub that was causing the 'failure'?  I would hope not the test house, otherwise they need a quiet talking to about using unverified equipment in the test chamber.  Any EMC engineer worth his salt knows that the 'CE' mark is just that - a mark.  Anyone can slap it on anything.  Its only when challenged does the manufacturer/importer need to prove its validity.

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Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:53 am

[ Duped from comments to Liz"s post ]
Eben, Liz, Pete, Jimmy, Craig, Gareth, the Puddytat, and the Rest of The Team,

I think I can best express the emotions for the rest of us by quoting the following from the first Moon landing by Apollo 11:

MISSION CONTROL IN HOUSTON: “30 seconds [fuel remaining].”

APOLLO 11 LUNAR EXCURSION MODULE/LANDER EAGLE: “Contact light! O.K., engine stop . . . descent engine command override off . . . ”

HOUSTON: “We copy you down, Eagle.”

EAGLE: “Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed!”

HOUSTON: “Roger, Tranquility. We copy you on the ground. You’ve got a bunch of guys about to turn blue. We’re breathing again. Thanks a lot.”

This is just such outstanding news, and ranks right up there with the proclamation of the Magna Carta, Columbus discovering excellent new beachfront property, and the Wright Brothers figuring out new uses for bicycle parts. It will be particularly nice to be able to use clear cases unobstructed by mesh or metallic paint. I take it that the Model A boards will go through separate tests … much later.

The cat comment is priceless … I’m sure PETA and the humane societies have been sitting on pins and needles waiting for that news! In addition to the excellent engineering exemplified by passing these tests, this is exactly the kind of thing that separates the Foundation’s efforts from the boring corporate stuff we have to put up with day in and day out.

I can’t wait to start testing Pi-finity! on my actual board to verify my ideas for ensuring that the game can only run on the R-Pi. I’ve started prototyping the engine and should have a rough alpha version of the game available about the same time as I and the other first 10,000 Pi-niacs receive their boards … in our stockings at Chistmas, you promise, right?

>>> print( frustration_level)
1000000
>>> frustration_level = frustration_level – 1
>>> print( frustration_level)
999999

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Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:32 am

With respect to the CAT, I am reminded of BS6008:1980 (A noble and worthwhile effort in standardisation, I even believe there is an ISO !). So I would presume within various EMC requirements (and I expect R.I.A has one !) would have the following.

1.CAT Test

1.1 Standard CAT

A standard cat will be used in the test of the equipment. A standard cat will be an animal from the Felis silvestris catus species. However for large equipment Panthera tigris is recommended with augmented local tests using Felis silvestris catus.

Note Sphynx cats by definition are not acceptable.

1.2 CAT Colour

The colour of the cat is important and should be determined from below

Ginger : Low Voltage (5V >=) Childrens Toys etc

Tortishell : Medium Voltage (24V >= ) Military equipment

Black : RF and other equipment requiring the use of the Occult.

1.3 CAT Charging

The Cat shall be mounted appropriately (in the arms of small loving child *) and stoked until

1. A large gold leaf electrometer shows full deflection.

2. Significant Purring is observed

3. The cat escapes from clutches of small child *

* For large equipment testing this is not necesary (See 1.1)

1.4 Equipment Test

The equipment must be set  up so that the Cat will be able to access it fully. It is best set up as follows ensuring without the Cat the view of the TV is completely unobscured yet with cat the view is completely obscured, ie

TV      RPi    User

There are two main tests

1. Moving Test

2. Sit Test

The moving test an appropriate fake mouse (or a trained Standard Mouse (See Section 3)) is pulled at different speeds across the equipment.

The Sit test requires the Cat to sit on the equipment. It may be necessary to 'warm' the equipment first or to shine strong natural daylight on it.

1.5 Pass/Fail

A Pass is deemed if the equipment continues operation. A disturbance is allowed as long as the equipment recovers.

Fail if the equipment ceases operation.

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:38 am

Very good!

I must query article 1.3.1 - every time I try to stoke my cat she digs her claws in and smacks her tail in my face, I wonder if the standard shouldn't be amended to stroking?
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Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:50 am

bodgyuk said:

Very good!

I must query article 1.3.1 - every time I try to stoke my cat she digs her claws in and smacks her tail in my face, I wonder if the standard shouldn"t be amended to stroking?


Ummmm ... we _are_ still talking about pus ... I mean, cats, right?
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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:23 pm

Hi bodgyuk 

I suspect you are not a "small loving child" and you are not testing large equipment so I would suggest that you are not compliant with the appropriate stricture stated within 1.3.

From your statement I suspect your Cat is of the same opinion !

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:51 pm

I suspect the cat is clawing you because you are STOKING it not STROKING it
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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:05 pm

Oh Fair Cop, my spelling has let me down .

AMMENDMENT

1.3 CAT Charging

The Cat shall be mounted appropriately (in the arms of small loving child *) and stroked until

1. A large gold leaf electrometer shows full deflection.

2. Significant Purring is observed

3. The cat escapes from clutches of small child *

* For large equipment testing this is not necesary (See 1.1)

1.3.1 CAT Stoking

It is not advised that the CAT should be stoked. It has yet to be determined that the appropriate Field Strength can be achieved using this method even though it has been observed that 'HAIR STANDS ON END' when this methodology is used.

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:15 pm

Somewhere along the way, this thread went wierdly and delightfully off-topic. Surely, cats (of any persuasion) are not suitable for such testing, which is why we have guinea-pigs.

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:21 pm

Lynbarn said:


Somewhere along the way, this thread went wierdly and delightfully off-topic. Surely, cats (of any persuasion) are not suitable for such testing, which is why we have guinea-pigs.



Yeah the cats are just there for appearing in Eben's interviews - where they subliminally send us messages about Cats taking over the world!

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:25 pm

I'm just worried if this testing voids the warranty that comes with my cat...

Felis catus is your taxonomic nomenclature,

An endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature;

Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses

Contribute to your hunting skills and natural defenses.



I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations,

A singular development of cat communications

That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection

For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.



A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents;

You would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.

And when not being utilized to aid in locomotion,

It often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.



O Spot, the complex levels of behavior you display

Connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array.

And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,

I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.

I no longer have the original packing material, so I can't go back and check against that.
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Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:36 pm

Robert_M : Mr Data would be impressed to be associated with RPi I am sure

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:46 am

Do not attempt to interfere in the affairs of cats, as they know precisely where to pee into your computer to cause the most damage without risking use of any of their spare lives.
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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:22 pm

Jim Manley said:


Do not attempt to interfere in the affairs of cats, as they know precisely where to pee into your computer to cause the most damage without risking use of any of their spare lives.


Yes, cat urine is highly conductive, and also corrosive!

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:59 am

Mahjongg,

you're abso-blimin-lutely right!

This means cats can't pass CE on account of their missing the appropriate markings applicable to hazardous materials. There isn't even an MSDS for cats available.
In fact, you can't even take them to the town dump on account of the presence of these hazardous materials...

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Re: We got through CE testing unscathed!

Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:03 pm

Also, if they have eaten canned food they might not even be ROHS conform.

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