itsmedoofer
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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:15 am

Hi,

Is your pi failing to reboot or cold boot ?

My own experience here is that the type of SATA --> USB controller will dictate whether reboot works or not, nothing on the OS side will help if it does not work, one thing you may want to try if you have one if attach a USB hub and connect the drive to that.

I have had good results with cheap USB3 caddies from Amazon...

Edit:-

Just seen this, worth a pop,, viewtopic.php?f=28&t=189818

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:49 am

Hello,
my raspi is only failing after reboots. After cold boots it always work :/

On wednesday I'll receive a new sata adapter, let's see if somethings changes. I read the other article you provided (tnx) and I already applied all the suggestions.

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:40 pm

Hi,

I had no issues with cold boot, only rebooting when it would hang, changing the adapter worked for me, the case I got was only 6UKP, it may not be the greatest quality but it works and that is good enough for me. Good luck !

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:51 am

blacktek wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:49 am
On wednesday I'll receive a new sata adapter, let's see if somethings changes. I read the other article you provided (tnx) and I already applied all the suggestions.
That linked article contained a lot of old information. With the latest Raspbian images all that extra file editing is no longer needed (Raspbian now uses PARTUUID to avoid device misdirection). Just burn-n-boot now (with a compatible USB drive).

Which USB SATA adapter did you order?
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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:45 am

Hello,
for me PARTUUID was not working for some strange reason; so I'm still using the old way. In the previous posts I explain what I did to use PARTUUID

This is the controller I've:
https://www.inateck.com/it/inateck-ua10 ... apter.html

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:35 am

HawaiianPi wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:51 am

Which USB SATA adapter did you order?
This is what I'm currently using, works a treat with no messing about. https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELUTENG-Enclos ... ransparent

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:41 am

tnx for sharing. Today I should receive from Amazon this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELUTENG-Extern ... 06XCV1W97/ that should be exactly the same then your (but without enclosure)

I'll tell you if somethings changes

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:56 am

blacktek wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:41 am
tnx for sharing. Today I should receive from Amazon this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELUTENG-Extern ... 06XCV1W97/ that should be exactly the same then your (but without enclosure)

I'll tell you if somethings changes
The ELUTENG adapter cable used to work great, but it was recently replaced by a newer model that doesn't work as well. The newer model has a blue SATA connector (which appears to be the one you ordered). The older one looked like this (click).

Updating Raspbian helps, though. So if you can boot with that adapter, then run:

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sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y
To bring your system fully up to date.
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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:00 am

pfff what a shame if this one doesn't work too (and the fault is at controller side)

my system is already uptodated to latest packages. I upgraded from Jessie to Stretch too

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:49 am

blacktek wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:00 am
pfff what a shame if this one doesn't work too (and the fault is at controller side)...
It may work for you. The newer adapter is a bit picky about the SSD drive. It works better with some drives and worse with others (the older version worked with everything I plugged into it, regardless of OS updates).
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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:09 am

bad news after testing the Eluteng adapter. it works most of the time, but not always. eg just now it hanged up at rainbow screen with the green led flashing 7 times (it should mean kernel.img not found) :(

to this raspi there are no other devices connected on usb ports.

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:17 pm

I've tried setting PARTUUID too:

pi@raspi:~ $ sudo blkid
/dev/sda1: LABEL="BOOT" UUID="527C-D2B3" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="43be32d2-01"
/dev/sda2: UUID="548ae2ae-e0cf-44a2-9f41-a9810db797b1" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="43be32d2-02"

/etc/fstab:
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
PARTUUID=43be32d2-01 /boot vfat defaults 0 2
PARTUUID=43be32d2-02 / ext4 defaults,noatime 0 1
# a swapfile is not a swap partition, no line here
# use dphys-swapfile swap[on|off] for that

/boot/cmdline.txt:
dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 console=tty1 root=PARTUUID=43be32d2-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes rootwait rootdelay=5

Is it correct that if I type "mount" after the reboot I still see the old /dev/sdaX ?

pi@raspi:~ $ mount
/dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,data=ordered)
devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=470116k,nr_inodes=117529,mode=755)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755)
tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,xa
ttr,release_agent=/lib/systemd/systemd-cgroups-agent,name=systemd)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpu,cpuacct)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=27,pgrp=1,timeout=0,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime)
mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,relatime)
sunrpc on /run/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw,relatime)
configfs on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw,relatime)
/dev/sda1 on /boot type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /run/user/1000 type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=94944k,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=1000)

But still no luck; everyonce in a while (after sudo reboot) it hangs. With powercycle it seems always working.

:(

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:31 am

Hello,
should I give up and surrend to use the micro SD for boot and then SSD as main partition? or there is something else I could test?

In case I would use the SSD just for boot could you please give me an howto of the steps to do? I think I should put just a minimal boot image on the SD to format as FAT32 and in bootconfig tell the PARTUID of /root being the external ssd, right?

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:49 am

Can you try a different SATA to USB3.0 cable?

This one worked for me, RPi3B+ natively booting up a 1TB 2.5" HDD in a quattro case. (no microSD in microSD slot)
perfect match.
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used it also to test SSD boot up on a RPi3B. no problems....

HDDs consume more power than SSDs

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:59 am

I've another one from Inateck (the one with power adapter), that is 99% the same and was quite good tested. Do you think it's worth a test?

I'm doing collection of sata adapter :D

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:13 am

Me too :D

but really I check out the reviews first, then the go thru the spec sheet before buying...
what I've recommended already worked for me. I have one lying around somewhere waiting to be used....

too bad the original Eluteng SATA cable is no longer available. It was HawaiianPi (thanks!!!) that introduced me to that. I think I got myself 4 of those.

Nowadays I check first the chipset used by the adapter, before getting a different one....

the powered one is good to test, but it has to be powered. Unpowered and it might not work
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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:22 am

this is mine (last one bought after reading reviews and chipset)
https://www.inateck.com/it/inateck-ua10 ... apter.html

UA1001 has chipset ASM1153E, the one you suggested (UA1003) has ASM1153E(UASP). So basically they've the same chipset, but your one has UASP. Could it make a difference? I've bought another one (from Sabrent) with UASP (still ASM1153 chipset) and it doesn't work :/

I've this https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B06XCV ... UTF8&psc=1 too and doesn't work. All of those more suggested here.

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:19 pm

Reading back from you first post way back September, it seems you were using Sandisk SDSSD120. Is it the same one that is failing now?

I also have Sandisk SSD, its a SDSSD240 (240GB). Tested both the Eluteng and the Inateck adapter on that SSD, boots and reboots fine.
might try to reconnect it again using the Inateck cable so I can update and upgrade the installed Raspbian Stretch in it.

Edit:
cant find the adaptor, might order again (because I need one more anyway)
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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:26 pm

I replaced Sandisk with a Crucial MX500 (changed to see if something changed). I'm not as lucky as you :(

I upgraded to Stretch too, without any lucky.

Most of the time it works, but often hangs in various points of the boot process. (I shared boot debug info too)

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:12 pm

seems your problem before was caused by insufficient power.
so your current setup is still powered by the Vilros 5v 3A "psu"? I dont know if this PSU was "flagged" before as "unsuitable".

I never tried native USB booting using a 2.0A psu.
All of my PSU are non-RPF PSU rated 5v 3A bought from a reputable online electronics store. I think I have 7 of those.
no load voltage at 5.00v, loaded voltage in running RPi3B+ [this unit, with DAC, USB thumbdrive boot, wireless keyboard/mouse dongle, HDMI monitor] the voltage at one of the USB port reads 5.12v (I measured the voltage on the output pins of the microUSB to breadboard pin adaptor that I made)

using the same non-RPF psu, no problem even when doing HDD boot.
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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:17 pm

Hi, I tried vilros 3A, vilros 2A, another one no brand 2A but all with same results. But as I use a powered sata-usb adapter it shouldn't be a problem, right? the raspi works perfectly booting from SD card.

Could you please post links to a couple of better PSUs?

tnx

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:21 pm

the unanimous recommendation will of-course be the RPF PSU.

as I have posted above I might order again the Inateck SATA adaptor....
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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:20 am

yesterday I ordered the inateck adaptor, should arrive today.

Sorry for the stupid question, but what is the "RPF PSU"? I don't see much in google with rpf. Any link?

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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:50 am

blacktek wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:20 am
yesterday I ordered the inateck adaptor, should arrive today.

Sorry for the stupid question, but what is the "RPF PSU"? I don't see much in google with rpf. Any link?
The explanation is in the footer of this page: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/ra ... er-supply/

RPF = Raspberry Pi Foundation
PSU = Power SUpply
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Re: Unable to Boot RPI 3B from SSD disk

Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:52 am

Ok tnx :) I was missing just the word RPF :)

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