pi_lover
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Which browser do you use ?

Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:22 pm

Hi,

Chromium is extremely slow. NetSurf cant remember passwords.

Which browser do you use with your Pi ?

I am using Pi2

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:43 pm

pi_lover wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:22 pm
Hi,

Chromium is extremely slow. NetSurf cant remember passwords.

Which browser do you use with your Pi ?

I am using Pi2

If you are running Raspbian Stretch with Desktop, then alternatives available from the repositories are:

Midori
Firefox-ESR


Also there is kweb:

viewtopic.php?t=40860


Though how you measure slow is subjective ;)
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:04 pm

I read somewhere (dont have the link) that Midori is no longer maintained. Is this true ?

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:28 pm

Chromium

Slow and bloated is pretty much the state of all fully featured web browsers these days. The only way to get around it is to stop using web pages/APIs for everything.

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:43 pm

Problem is I cant browse Facebook at all with Chromium. Its terribly slow.

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:54 pm

pi_lover wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:43 pm
Problem is I cant browse Facebook at all with Chromium. Its terribly slow.
That's Google's new data protection and privacy option :D :D
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:32 pm

What it boils down to is that none of the Pi's before the 3 had the horsepower to do regular web browsing. Just wasn't there.

Your choices are:

1) Use something like MIdori (which still works and is still in the repo, but is limited to simple web pages - obviously, not faceblob). This is what I do on the one pre-3 on which I need to have a browser running.

2) Upgrade to a 3 series Pi - where you can run normal browsers. I use Vivaldi, which works fine for me.
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:27 pm

I am using the default Chromium on my Pi 3B, which is being used as a backup desktop. Works just fine.

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:32 pm

Chromium with an established Google account so my settings and bookmarks are available to my various computers when using Chrome/Chromium.
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:49 am

On my Pi3, i use Chromium and sometimes netsurf.
You can try these links for a faster facebook experience. The sites are not as full features however:
https://mbasic.facebook.com
https://m.facebook.com

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:27 am

I am using Netsurf most of the time with

firejail --private option.

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:04 pm

Firefox Developer Edition 58.0.1 64-bit on Pi , 58.0.2 on Intel Linux Mint
Opened 30+ tabs on Pi version before getting bored, still had some memory left ;)
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:53 pm

My Pi2 boards seem too sluggish when using anything other than Netsurf, so that's what I use. Once in a while, if I need javascript, I use the built in Rasbian browser (can't remember its name). It gets the job done, but not blisteringly quickly. On the faster boards, I use Vivaldi (excellent and speedy).
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:03 pm

pi_lover wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:04 pm
I read somewhere (dont have the link) that Midori is no longer maintained. Is this true ?
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:05 pm

Gavinmc42 wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:04 pm
Firefox Developer Edition 58.0.1 64-bit on Pi , 58.0.2 on Intel Linux Mint
Opened 30+ tabs on Pi version before getting bored, still had some memory left ;)
Is this in the main repository to install using apt-get? Or did you get the source and compiled?
Thanks
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:06 pm

WorkPants wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:49 am
On my Pi3, i use Chromium and sometimes netsurf.
You can try these links for a faster facebook experience. The sites are not as full features however:
https://mbasic.facebook.com
https://m.facebook.com
Ah, I didn't know that, thanks for the info ;)

Just opened it, really brilliant, very very basic, but I love it :P

I think you need to beware, as there doesn't seem to be the logout option and I was not asked for my login, so clearing cokies would be advisable .... just to make sure FB doesn't track you.
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:24 pm

@Workpants
Thats awesome. No I can at least browse FB. Thanks a lot.

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:28 pm

pi_lover wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:22 pm
Hi,

Chromium is extremely slow. NetSurf cant remember passwords.

Which browser do you use with your Pi ?

I am using Pi2
I use Midori, but it's very unstable, at some point for no reason some functions just stop working, like opening a new tab/window, or some graphics stop loading. For the regular stuff it's ok. I only use Chromium when I watch a video and want to download it using Video Doanloaders, as Midori does not have those kind of add-ons. Also adding add-on on Chromium like Ghostery, Privacy Badger, Videostopper, etc. can cause memory consuption to go high, so I have to disable them. When purchasing stuff - I startup my PC. You cannot use the full functionality of Chrome or Firefox, mainly using GPU Acceleration, as they are by dafault not available on Linux, so I think. Some people offer their own versions that can be compiles with GPU acceleration.

Try this:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=229366

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:45 pm

I use Midori too but CPU usage stays high most of the time dunno why.
About m.faceboook.com, when I click on "More Stories" it just goes to the top of the page and no new feeds are loaded.

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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:14 pm

Enabling HW Acceleration in Chrome
http://www.ismoothblog.com/2016/12/enab ... owser.html

The current options seem different...
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Re: Which browser do you use ?

Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:35 am

Firefox Developer Edition 58.0.1 64-bit on Pi , 58.0.2 on Intel Linux Mint
Opened 30+ tabs on Pi version before getting bored, still had some memory left ;)

Is this in the main repository to install using apt-get? Or did you get the source and compiled?
Thanks
I did not do it, I run Gentoo Aarch64, it comes on Sakaki's Gentoo distribution.
https://github.com/sakaki-/gentoo-on-rpi3-64bit
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For the full saga of how it was done check Neddyseagoon's posts on the Gentoo forums.
To compile it he needed to get a Aarch64 version of the Rust compiler going, which needs LLVM first.

Gentoo's Firefox browser has the multicore code from Mozilla's Servo engine.
A bit about Rust on Pi's
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Firefox uses the 4 ARM cores to accelerate the browser engine.
Those cores run in 64bit mode and maybe there is some NEON going on too.

It works and runs fine, the tabs seem to use up less memory than other browsers.
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