PI Zero W info

[fruitoftheloom]

Will the Zero W do USB boot like the 3B?

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[jamesh]

From my understanding from talking to the tech guys at the foundation Pi Zero is not a profit making product - the reason they are in short supply is because they have to stop one of their 3 machines making profitable products (Pi3b) to make a run of Pi Zero (or W) - zero is provided at this price to enable schools etc to be able to afford a classfull of devices on their budget.

RPT (not RPF) are addressing the situation by having the BCM2837 3B (maybe the 2B v1.2 as well) manufactured by Sony Japan, therefore leaving more capacity at Sony Pencoed Wales

http://elinux.org/RPi_HardwareHistory

As I posted above, it is not production capacity thing. The Foundation could make millions. And then go out of business because, hey, look, not enough profit. Anyone else trying the same thing would go out of business.

[W. H. Heydt]

The backlash is unbelievable and pathetic. I started with a ZX81 because the ZX80 was obsolete/unavailable by the time I could afford one . The Not-for-profit Raspberry Pi foundation comes out with a better version of the zero for a nominal increase, and people whine. I think a lot of folks are improperly using Pi's for commercial purposes and should either get jobs with viable companies or learn how to design similar systems on their own.

The irony of that is that the just released CM3 is actually substantially cheaper than the CM it replaces--$30 vs. $40 (though $30 in quantity and now lists for $30).

[mob-i-l]

Can one use the FM radio receiver on the Raspberry Pi Zero W? On the Pi 3 I think the problem was that the FM-antenna was not exposed.

[Mettauk]

£9.50 is not a lot to pay for the convenience of integrated WiFi/BT

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A particular advantage is a Zero W can be a USB peripheral while using WiFi/BT.
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The only things which would make it better for me are an external antenna connector ( for which there seems to be solder pads already ), and battery / power management capabilities on-board.
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It would be nice to buy a new Tesla ...

Anyone know if its possible to add an external antenna to the pi zero w? I saw something to add one on a pi3 to do this but can't find it.

[Paul Webster]

Can one use the FM radio receiver on the Raspberry Pi Zero W? On the Pi 3 I think the problem was that the FM-antenna was not exposed.

That is a good question - the antenna pin was not routed out on RPi3.
I just had another look at a preliminary data sheet for the 43438 and it has clever tricks like making the FM audio available over Bluetooth A2DP

[bstrobl]

Can one use the FM radio receiver on the Raspberry Pi Zero W? On the Pi 3 I think the problem was that the FM-antenna was not exposed.

I would actually buy one just to make an FM Radio if its wired up . Surprised the Foundation has not done it till now, even though developing countries are most likely to benefit from it.

[i486]

12 Million sold.

And how many PiZero?

[mikronauts]

I believe I read the figure of 80k Zero's since its launch.

12 Million sold.

And how many PiZero?

[Paul Webster]

I believe I read the figure of 80k Zero's since its launch.

Wasn't that 80k RPi0W in first batch?

[kovacsadam07]

Is the gadget mod still works? Or is there a usb hub and in this it's not?

[linux_author]

The cost of adding WiFi using a USB adaptor is usually more than $5. - Nevermind WiFi plus Bluetooth, and you still have your USB port free....

not if you can get working USB wifi mini-dongles for less than US$3 shipped (such as on Amazon; i have at least two)

but i am very happy to see this new variant...

Q: Is the form factor for zero cases the same? IOW, will a RPi Zero 1.3 case work with the the Zero W?

tia!

willie
on the sunny and warm Gulf of Mexico

[fruitoftheloom]

Is the gadget mod still works? Or is there a usb hub and in this it's not?

The single USB BUS does not have a Hub attached, which is the same as the previous Zero revisions.

[kovacsadam07]

Is the gadget mod still works? Or is there a usb hub and in this it's not?

The single USB BUS does not have a Hub attached, which is the same as the previous Zero revisions.

How is the wifi and Bluetooth connected?

[DougieLawson]

How is the wifi and Bluetooth connected?

It's an SDIO device.

[kovacsadam07]

How is the wifi and Bluetooth connected?

It's an SDIO device.

I seeeeeeee, thank you! Such a good news

[mikronauts]

Hmm was there a change?

I thought the WiFi was SDIO, and the BT serial?

How is the wifi and Bluetooth connected?

It's an SDIO device.

[fruitoftheloom]

Hmm was there a change?

I thought the WiFi was SDIO, and the BT serial?

How is the wifi and Bluetooth connected?

It's an SDIO device.

Yes I believe you are correct as that is how the 3B is wired:

https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi-v3/

[W. H. Heydt]

Q: Is the form factor for zero cases the same? IOW, will a RPi Zero 1.3 case work with the the Zero W?

The new case fits both Pi0 and Pi0W.

[W. H. Heydt]

I believe I read the figure of 80k Zero's since its launch.

I believe it's 80K made pre-launch and 25K/week production schedule.

12 Million sold.

And how many PiZero?

Really hard to say. Last Spring the plan was to make 50K Pi0s per month. There have been some recent comments suggesting that the is now 80K per month. So taking everything said or hinted at, total Pi0 production is probably in the neighborhood of 500K to date.

[linux_author]

Q: Is the form factor for zero cases the same? IOW, will a RPi Zero 1.3 case work with the the Zero W?

The new case fits both Pi0 and Pi0W.

tks!

willie
on the Zero-computing Gulf of Mexico

[skspurling]

Curiouser and curiouser... Adafruit, the only company that allows on-line orders in the US, isn't listing the non-W Pi Zero at all now. I will be rather disappointed if the advent of the Pi Zero W means that I can no longer get Pi Zeros on this side of The Pond, as I don't live anywhere near a Micro Center.

Micro Center would stop selling them too, as they are brick and morter. They have a tendency to drop products that are variants of a main offering. For example, they droped the A+ rather quickly once the B+ was supplanted by the 2B and the 2B disappeared rather quickly when the 3B appeared.

I wonder if cana kit is now selling the plain zero, or just the W variant?

[W. H. Heydt]

I wonder if cana kit is now selling the plain zero, or just the W variant?

They were yesterday. But you can order only one of one or the other, but not one of each. Thus, they appear to think that the Pi0 and Pi0W are basically the same product.

[jamesh]

12 Million sold.

And how many PiZero?

Very approximately about half a million.

[bensimmo]

Q: Is the form factor for zero cases the same? IOW, will a RPi Zero 1.3 case work with the the Zero W?

The new case fits both Pi0 and Pi0W.

I will depend on the case, so no they may not fit.
The PiBow Pi0W case will not fit the PiZero. That's a new case so there must be something fundamentally in the way.
But I cannot see it on the nice picture flip on here
http://raspi.tv/2017/pi-zero-w-wifi-on- ... s-new-case

The x-ray images out there but can't remember where I saw it.