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22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:27 am

The Emotion X216/69E-LP 22” LCD TV will go on offer at Sainsbury's tomorrow at £74.99 Its a 1366 x 768 display

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:54 am

Good value, but from experience this resolution on this size screen is too low for normal usage. Would be great for XBMC though.

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:20 pm

Here in Germany you could get a 21.5" LCD-TV with DVD-Player and 2 HDMI-Ports for 119,95EUR.

OK, its B-Quality from like repairs or customers sent back the unit...
(in german: Fast neuwertige B-Ware mit vereinzelt leichten, optischen Mängeln. Schäden an der Verpackung sind möglich.)

Resolution HD = 1920*1080
DVB-T and DVB-C Tuner
USB-Ports, Card-Reader
SCART, VGA, Composite

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PS: The link is provided in the "here" at the beginning of this message :)

another cost-effective HDMI-Monitor ist the Hannspree Basketball Monitor fuer 79EUR at a resolution of 1440 x 900
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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:25 pm

robwriter wrote:Good value, but from experience this resolution on this size screen is too low for normal usage. Would be great for XBMC though.
Yeah, there's typically a large difference between the DPI you want for a "monitor" and the DPI for a "television", because you typically sit much nearer to a monitor than a TV.

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:44 am

Actually decided at this price this might be worth it for using XBMC in our spare room, so I went to look for it today and it wasn't there. Do you know if this is correct, or did something change?

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:14 am

I suggest you check out the monitors at www.morgancomputers.co.uk. Morgan deal in second-user or remaindered kit, and I've always had at least decent value from them. (I have no connection with Morgan, except as a long-term user).

There are various monitors with DVI in their lists at present, so the only other thing needed is a cheap HDMI-DVI lead or converter.

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:08 am

captainwebb wrote:I suggest you check out the monitors at http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk. Morgan deal in second-user or remaindered kit, and I've always had at least decent value from them. (I have no connection with Morgan, except as a long-term user).

There are various monitors with DVI in their lists at present, so the only other thing needed is a cheap HDMI-DVI lead or converter.
I bought this and it works brilliantly:-

HDMI to DVI-D cable - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170807807138? ... 1439.l2649

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:15 pm

another cost-effective HDMI-Monitor ist the Hannspree Basketball Monitor fuer 79EUR at a resolution of 1440 x 900
Have had Hannspree before, do some very well priced TVs and monitors. 1440x900 is a very nice size.
much much better than 1366x768 which is only good for TV/Films/Games. 768 is not enough lines for browsing or developing, not even for a PI. Even most smart phones have over 800 lines now. the extra 132 lines makes a huge difference. Full HD is more than most people need, unfortunately they stopped making 1440x900 LCD screens about 2 years ago any old stock 1440x900 at discount price is a good buy. however noticed that a standard of 1600x900 has started to appear alongside the 2 tv sizes.
Being 16:9 its same aspect ratio as 1366:768. so good for film tv and computer/pi
Cheapest 1600x900 are now around £75 now. Think for 21"?
but even a 16" with 900 lines is better than a 24" with 768

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:54 pm

Awaiting Pi, I'm running an Acer Aspire 1 netbook to a 1366x768 15.5" Coby TV on sale from Walmart here for $80. It's on a table beside my dining room table. I'm using a Verbatim keyboard/mouse from Amazon so all of this should "plug right in" to the Pi. I've got an SD prepared, and even have a USB hard drive left over from an old laptop in a $10 USB case.

Now I've got Debian up on a Qemu simulation under Ubuntu 12.10 - I'm pretty dubious about the 256MB memory size on the Pi, the Debian .iso is pretty big. Maybe Racy Puppy Pi would help.

Anyway thought I'd get in on the "2nd floor" Pi Model B "hoping" that there'll be a Pi with larger memory down the pike somewhere....I have an older laptop up with 512 MB which runs Lubuntu O.K.

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:07 pm

jerrylamos wrote:Anyway thought I'd get in on the "2nd floor" Pi Model B "hoping" that there'll be a Pi with larger memory down the pike somewhere....I have an older laptop up with 512 MB which runs Lubuntu O.K.
The Raspberry Pi Foundation have stated that they have no intent of doing this any time in the near future. After all they still need to get the Model A into production.

Still, one can always hope :)

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:29 pm

jerrylamos wrote:I'm pretty dubious about the 256MB memory size on the Pi, the Debian .iso is pretty big.
The .iso (did you mean .img?) is only big because Debian contains so many packages, this is no reflection of how much memory it'll use while running. The latter is determined by which programs you actually run not which programs you merely install ;)

But yeah, with only 256MB or RAM (which reduces to either 224, 192 or 128 after the GPU takes its own chunk) you tend to have to run "lighter" versions of the apps you're used to on your desktop PC, and you can't run many apps at the same time.

EDIT: Of course you can enable swap space (virtual memory) but that will slow things down.

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:34 am

Another small distro is being prepared/run for Raspberry Pi, Raspbian even. I've got Puppy arm version running under Virtual box on amd64. Runs a lot faster and easier to set up than qemu with the caution I'm inexperienced with both qemu and virtual box:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/02/18/ ... -emulator/

Poke around the Puppy site there's a bunch of different activity.
http://teampython.wordpress.com/2012/03 ... e-racypy2/
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02912
http://puppylinuxnews.org/home/new-racy-puppy/

The .iso fits on a 1 MB SD o.k. as booted on amd64. I don't know how an SD is prepared for Raspberry Pi other than the debian Raspberry Pi 2 GB images I've downloaded. There's a bunch of packages including internet browser with flashplayer available.

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:02 pm

Was in the end of Coventry where there are a few second hand shops. Seems the going rate for second hand 17" monitors is now £25

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:27 pm

geezbeez wrote:Was in the end of Coventry where there are a few second hand shops. Seems the going rate for second hand 17" monitors is now £25
Is that CRT or flatpanel an if flatpanel do they have DVI inputs?

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:20 pm

http://www.toys.ie/23-6-Inch-Full-HD-LE ... 6-prd.aspx


€99

I have this at home ( paid 159 for it a while back)

It's a great telly , and suits the Pi perfectly

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:13 pm

toys.ie is smyths in england, same TV is here:
http://www.smythstoys.com/televisions-7 ... 96itm.aspx

ebuyer do a cheapish DVI monitor @ £69 :
http://www.ebuyer.com/281264-aoc-e950sw ... r-e950swda

Surprising they still sell VGA-only monitors...
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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:09 pm

wallacebiy wrote:http://www.toys.ie/23-6-Inch-Full-HD-LE ... 6-prd.aspx
€99
I have this at home ( paid 159 for it a while back)
It's a great telly , and suits the Pi perfectly
Does it have CEC on HDMI to control RPi XBMC via TV remote?
My Samsung 19" has HDMI but CEC not recognised neither OpenELEC nor Raspbmc :(

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Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:34 pm

geezbeez wrote: Have had Hannspree before, do some very well priced TVs and monitors.
They may be cheap but my experiance with them was not good. I have a hanspree 28 inch TV. I bought it because it was advertised as having a resoloution of 1920x1200 and I thought this would mean it would make a decent monitor as well as a TV (after all why else would someone use a 1920x1200 panel in a TV?).

I was totally wrong, the screen was basically unusable at 1920x1200 over VGA. It was slightly better at that same resoloution under HDMI but it was still a case of going from practically unusable to barely usable. Dropping the resoloution to 1920x1080 made things slightly better again but still it was a blurry mess. It also has an annoying buzzing issue sometimes when using analog video inputs. After this experiance I do not intend to buy their TVs again. In the end I relegated it to a location where I only wanted a TV and replaced it in the place where I wanted something that would work as both a monitor and a TV with a LG M2762D (which has been great).

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:16 pm

scorp wrote:
wallacebiy wrote:http://www.toys.ie/23-6-Inch-Full-HD-LE ... 6-prd.aspx
€99
I have this at home ( paid 159 for it a while back)
It's a great telly , and suits the Pi perfectly
Does it have CEC on HDMI to control RPi XBMC via TV remote?
My Samsung 19" has HDMI but CEC not recognised neither OpenELEC nor Raspbmc :(

Dunno , I'll have to test that out .


I know it didn't work for my android phone though , but that wouldn't surprise me .

( the telly has a USB in port though and plays anything off a hard drive ( pretty much anyway ) )

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Re: 22" TV with HDMI new for £74.99

Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:00 pm

plugwash wrote: I have a hanspree 28 inch TV.

...... but still it was a blurry mess.
That it's blurry on VGA makes sense: VGA signals are analog and everybody has switched to digital signals before 1920x1200 became common, exactly because analog signals are difficult at those bandwidths. So often VGA is usable up to say just beyond 1280x1024.

That said, with DVI or HDMI you should be able to get a good picture. The fact that things look blurry to you indicates that the screen is converting the signal, either up- or down. So probably you were not driving the screen at its native resolution.

Often screens are advertized as capable of displaying 1920x1200 when they can downconvert it to their native resolution. So I would suggest: find the native resolution of that screen, and then figure out if they lied to you before it was sold to you. If they did, demand your money back.
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Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:02 am

rew wrote:VGA signals are analog and everybody has switched to digital signals before 1920x1200 became common, exactly because analog signals are difficult at those bandwidths. So often VGA is usable up to say just beyond 1280x1024.
I think i've only once had problems with VGA on a monitor and I suspect that case was a bad video card or a bad cable (since the monitor was fine on VGA with other sources). In my experience it seems to mostly be HDTVs that have VGA input subsystems that are in some way inadequate (whether it be blurring problems, not supporting the panels native resoloution, not supporting resolutions used in the PCs early boot or otherwise being a PITA).

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