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Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:59 pm

Yesterday I updated to kernel, firmware etc. version 1.20190925-2 (2019-10-10 13:55)
Today there is another one: 1.20190925+1-1 (2019-10-11 14:25)

Why? Is this some kind of emergency update? Or are these the same packages with just another naming scheme?
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Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:06 pm

No, it’s new, why is proble a minor bug fix that someone REALLY smart discovered and resolved overnight, yep, burning the midnight oil!
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Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:24 pm

gkreidl wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:59 pm
Yesterday I updated to kernel, firmware etc. version 1.20190925-2 (2019-10-10 13:55)
Today there is another one: 1.20190925+1-1 (2019-10-11 14:25)

Why? Is this some kind of emergency update? Or are these the same packages with just another naming scheme?
Was this with rpi-update? I wouldn't expect that on apt, but rpi-update always contains bleeding edge code, and its not on a regular update cycle it gets done when it need to be done. So if we find a nasty bug, just after its been updated, we could well do another release. But remember, nothing that comes from rpi-update is an 'official' release, those come from apt.

Of course, if we discover a real nasty just after updating apt, we would indeed release again.
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Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:26 pm

Tikiatybme wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:06 pm
No, it’s new, why is proble a minor bug fix that someone REALLY smart discovered and resolved overnight, yep, burning the midnight oil!
How do you know? Pure Speculation?
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Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:27 pm

jamesh wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:24 pm
gkreidl wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:59 pm
Yesterday I updated to kernel, firmware etc. version 1.20190925-2 (2019-10-10 13:55)
Today there is another one: 1.20190925+1-1 (2019-10-11 14:25)

Why? Is this some kind of emergency update? Or are these the same packages with just another naming scheme?
Was this with rpi-update? I wouldn't expect that on apt, but rpi-update always contains bleeding edge code, and its not on a regular update cycle it gets done when it need to be done. So if we find a nasty bug, just after its been updated, we could well do another release. But remember, nothing that comes from rpi-update is an 'official' release, those come from apt.

Of course, if we discover a real nasty just after updating apt, we would indeed release again.
No! Both versions are in the standard repository. I get them via apt or synaptic.
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Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:31 pm

gkreidl wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:27 pm
jamesh wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:24 pm
gkreidl wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:59 pm
Yesterday I updated to kernel, firmware etc. version 1.20190925-2 (2019-10-10 13:55)
Today there is another one: 1.20190925+1-1 (2019-10-11 14:25)

Why? Is this some kind of emergency update? Or are these the same packages with just another naming scheme?
Was this with rpi-update? I wouldn't expect that on apt, but rpi-update always contains bleeding edge code, and its not on a regular update cycle it gets done when it need to be done. So if we find a nasty bug, just after its been updated, we could well do another release. But remember, nothing that comes from rpi-update is an 'official' release, those come from apt.

Of course, if we discover a real nasty just after updating apt, we would indeed release again.
No! Both versions are in the standard repository. I get them via apt or synaptic.
OK, we probably found a nasty one then. Check out the linux repo, might be something in there to show what the problem was. Nothing to worry about. Just the usual bug finding and fixing.
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Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:36 am

Yup, the link above is right.

When kernel8 was added, I moved the build over to aarch64, not realising that cross-compiling leaves native binaries that break out-of-tree module builds on the target.

I moved the build back over to raspbian and got rid of kernel8 headers. Everything else remains the same.

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