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Question for Raspbian devs on updated packages

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:21 pm
by bls
I'm wondering what the process is for deciding if an updated package should be included in a next release of Raspbian. The specific package that I'm wondering
about is the strongSwan VPN. Per https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/strongswan it looks like strongSwan 5.8.0-1 could/will be in a near-future release of Debian.

Does this mean that the new strongSwan will be picked up "automagically" when that Debian release pops out and a Raspbian release built on that Debian release is completed?

If not, is there any way to help improve the likelihood that it would be improved? I would of course be happy to contribute to the testing of said updated package.

My strongSwan management tool depends on 5.8 or later. Today I build strongSwan from source, which extends the install/config time from a few minutes to 30-45 minutes. Getting to strongSwan 5.8 or later on Raspbian will make VPN installation and configuration a snap!

Thanks

Re: Question for Raspbian devs on updated packages

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:34 pm
by ShiftPlusOne
Packages for stable releases don't get update unless there's a very good reason for it. 5.8 made it into 'testing' and is unlikely to get into 'stable' until bullseye become stable in about 2 years time.

Re: Question for Raspbian devs on updated packages

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:35 pm
by ShiftPlusOne
As for whether packages get picked up automatically. If it builds and passes some basic automatic tests, yes. But again, we're talking about different releases here.

Re: Question for Raspbian devs on updated packages

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:10 pm
by bls
Ugh. I didn't realize that Bullseye was so far out, but thanks so much for the details on this...greatly appreciated!

Re: Question for Raspbian devs on updated packages

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:31 pm
by B.Goode
bls wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:10 pm
Ugh. I didn't realize that Bullseye was so far out, but thanks so much for the details on this...greatly appreciated!

References:
People often ask if there is a single release progress meter. Unfortunately there isn't one,
https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/


Key release dates
[202?-???-??] Nothing planned yet for Debian 11 "bullseye"
https://release.debian.org/

Re: Question for Raspbian devs on updated packages

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:49 pm
by plugwash
Debian doesn't precisely lock down release cycle length like some projects do, but the typical cycle length over the last few releases has been two years plus or minus a couple of months.

Buster was released in July this year, some I would estimate that bullseye will be released sometime between May and September 2021.