napalm272
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu May 07, 2015 7:11 pm

Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Thu May 07, 2015 7:18 pm

I went to https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ and the Raspbian image has a release date of 2015-05-05. I think I have been using the image from 2015-02. I'm pretty sure it's also wheezy 3.18. So what's new in this release? (I also checked the release note at http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbi ... _notes.txt and there's nothing newer than 2015-02)

ShiftPlusOne
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 6162
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:36 pm
Location: The unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Thu May 07, 2015 7:25 pm

Yup, more info coming.

napalm272
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu May 07, 2015 7:11 pm

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Thu May 07, 2015 7:32 pm

If I need a very stable image, should I use 2015-02-16-raspbian-wheezy or the new one?

ShiftPlusOne
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 6162
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:36 pm
Location: The unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Thu May 07, 2015 7:35 pm

The new one has been tested quite thoroughly and isn't too far off what you'd get if you ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. I'd say use the 5/5 one and let us know if there are any problems so that we know about it.

ShiftPlusOne
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 6162
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:36 pm
Location: The unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 12:13 pm


rotwang
Posts: 243
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:12 pm

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 12:46 pm

Does this release work with the compute module, by which I mean has anybody installed it on a compute module. The 2015-02-15 release is severely broken on the compute module.

ShiftPlusOne
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 6162
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:36 pm
Location: The unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 1:00 pm

Yes, I believe there was an issue with the firmware in the old image which was causing issues with the CM. The firmware has been bumped for this release.

User avatar
blachanc
Posts: 459
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:03 am
Location: Quebec,canada(french)

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 1:31 pm

Does this new release supports more WIFI chipsets out of the box?

ex: RTL8188eu

MrEngman fantastic thread about supporting "other" WIFI chipsets


Thank you,

Ben
Autism/Asperger syndrome: what is your score on this quiz?
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=70191

ShiftPlusOne
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 6162
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:36 pm
Location: The unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 1:44 pm

Nope, there's generally a reason that those chipsets aren't supported upstream, so there's some reluctance in putting them in our kernel. The long-term plan is to break the kernel out of raspberrypi-bootloader as a separate package and provide the headers as well. Then it's easier for beginners to compile those modules and they can even be made into DKMS packages so that they can run apt-get install blah and it will be re-compiled whenever the kernel is updated. That's not something that's happening soon though.

SteveSpencer
Posts: 351
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:19 am
Location: Nottingham, UK

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 2:23 pm

It may not be imminent, but it will be worthwhile for many. I have jumped through lots of hoops trying to compile drivers..

I must have come in a bit too early. I did an update/dist-upgrade and didn't get anything, then repeated after lunch and the upgrade worked as expected.
Steve S
No, I can't think of anything funny that won't offend someone if they want it to...

rotwang
Posts: 243
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:12 pm

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 6:37 pm

ShiftPlusOne wrote:Yes, I believe there was an issue with the firmware in the old image which was causing issues with the CM. The firmware has been bumped for this release.
Sad to say, the issue with GPIO16 has still not been fixed, GPIO16 is driven as an output during startup and execution, I don't find this documented anywhere, and it makes GPIO16 unuseable, and hazardous to connected hardware. Just put an led on it, it's easy enough to see what I mean. The question is what drives it, if it's the GPU boot code then it's unfixable and should be documented. If it's in the bootcode for the ARM then it needs to be removed with extreme prejudice. And, by the way, why no announcement of this new image becoming available.

ShiftPlusOne
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 6162
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:36 pm
Location: The unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 7:06 pm

I'm not familiar with what the GPIO16 issues is. If Gordon doesn't see this, I'll nudge him on Monday.
rotwang wrote:why no announcement of this new image becoming available.
Hmm? Time needed to pass for the image to be seeded by CDN, re-tested and so on, but there is an announcement.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/another-ras ... ce-update/

PuppetHoundZ
Posts: 170
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:57 am

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 9:49 pm

Great update at making this more Desktop like for beginners and even advanced users that want to impress newcomers and outsiders to the RaspberryPi.

Just wanted to say thought that Webkit for Epiphany is a little messed up or slow now. I used to be able to view 720p video on youtube and other websites on my Raspberry Pi 2 B but it now lags and stutters again like a Raspberry Pi B+.

ShiftPlusOne
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 6162
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:36 pm
Location: The unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 10:13 pm

Does it stutter if you move the mouse to the center and then don't move it so that the controls disappear? I've seen it lag when the controls are showing, but it seems to play fine otherwise.

PuppetHoundZ
Posts: 170
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:57 am

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 10:31 pm

ShiftPlusOne wrote:Does it stutter if you move the mouse to the center and then don't move it so that the controls disappear? I've seen it lag when the controls are showing, but it seems to play fine otherwise.
Both, when it's with the UI it's worse and without it's less but still studder a lot. It does this on youtube.com videos that have been embeded to default to 720p.

For example with the browser on fullscreen (maximized) then you type the following url for demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/embed/eCcqQOFayFU
Video shudders when full screen (ie when you select the full screen button on the youtube video) but not when on browser only interface. UI issue doesn't make a difference when full screen, but becomes smooth when UI is gone when not in full screen.

Also this website tv.jw.org : studders a lot on full screen and non-full screen with or without UI when before the update it ran smooth in 720p.
Example video: http://tv.jw.org/#video/VODChildren/doc ... 43_1_VIDEO

ShiftPlusOne
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 6162
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:36 pm
Location: The unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 10:42 pm

I'll take a look some time next week and pass it on if confirmed.

PuppetHoundZ
Posts: 170
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:57 am

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Fri May 08, 2015 10:49 pm

ShiftPlusOne wrote:I'll take a look some time next week and pass it on if confirmed.

Awesome Thanks. :D

Joe Schmoe
Posts: 4277
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:11 pm

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Sat May 09, 2015 12:02 am

I would like to try out the new UI stuff, on my existing (Raspbian 2/12/15 version) system. The link given above says to do:

Code: Select all

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
However, I am leery of upgrade - I've never liked it - and I don't really know what dist-upgrade does. In any case, I don't want to spend a day or two upgrading Wolfram/Mathematica - which is what always seems to happen when I do an "upgrade" (and no, I'm not kidding about "a day or two" - this is literally true).

Anyway, my question is: Is there a command to just upgrade the UI? (I think in the past there was something like: apt-get install raspberrypi-ui-changes)
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.

(One of the best lines I've seen on this board lately)

diederik
Posts: 393
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:17 pm

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Sat May 09, 2015 12:34 am

Joe Schmoe wrote:However, I am leery of upgrade - I've never liked it - and I don't really know what dist-upgrade does. In any case, I don't want to spend a day or two upgrading Wolfram/Mathematica - which is what always seems to happen when I do an "upgrade" (and no, I'm not kidding about "a day or two" - this is literally true).
You can use APT pinning to 'pin' Wolfram/Mathematica to their current version so they won't be upgraded.
Alternatively you can use 'aptitude hold <packagename>' or 'apt-mark hold <packagename'

dist-upgrade: see http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get (or 'man apt-get')

Joe Schmoe
Posts: 4277
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:11 pm

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Sat May 09, 2015 12:41 am

You can use APT pinning to 'pin' Wolfram/Mathematica to their current version so they won't be upgraded.
Alternatively you can use 'aptitude hold <packagename>' or 'apt-mark hold <packagename'
I'm not really interested in any of this.

I just want to know if there is an "apt-get install" to get just the new UI.
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.

(One of the best lines I've seen on this board lately)

rubikwizard
Posts: 95
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:37 pm
Location: West Yorkshire
Contact: Website

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Sat May 09, 2015 7:56 am

The new image will not auto-mount entries in the fstab file. I have a network shared drive which always auto-mounted during startup but since the update to the gui and also the new image it will not work. I think it is trying to auto mount before the network is connected.

Once started the drive can be mounted with a manual sudo mount -a.
Image

diederik
Posts: 393
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:17 pm

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Sat May 09, 2015 3:45 pm

I see in your screenshot both wlan0 and wlan1. Is that correct?

jamesh
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 24912
Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:41 pm

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Sat May 09, 2015 4:02 pm

Joe Schmoe wrote:
You can use APT pinning to 'pin' Wolfram/Mathematica to their current version so they won't be upgraded.
Alternatively you can use 'aptitude hold <packagename>' or 'apt-mark hold <packagename'
I'm not really interested in any of this.

I just want to know if there is an "apt-get install" to get just the new UI.
Well, you should be interested in it, because the poster has told you exactly what you need to do to do exactly what you need to do. Not necessarily what you WANT, because that is probably the wrong thing to do.

Raspberry Pi is for learning. If you are going to not be interested in learning, why bother? Lots of people here who can help you. Cheesing them of with comments like the above is counterproductive.
Principal Software Engineer at Raspberry Pi (Trading) Ltd.
Contrary to popular belief, humorous signatures are allowed. Here's an example...
“I own the world’s worst thesaurus. Not only is it awful, it’s awful."

Joe Schmoe
Posts: 4277
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:11 pm

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Sat May 09, 2015 4:43 pm

heh heh
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.

(One of the best lines I've seen on this board lately)

rubikwizard
Posts: 95
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:37 pm
Location: West Yorkshire
Contact: Website

Re: Raspbian released on 2015-05-05

Sat May 09, 2015 4:56 pm

I see in your screenshot both wlan0 and wlan1. Is that correct?
I only have a single wireless dongle plugged into a USB slot.

Return to “Raspbian”