https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSSoYmQS6Ngbjtheone wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:43 pmUnfortunately many people assume all electronics are appliances, like TVs or radios. Basically you turn them on and they work. It that world any phone or any computer should be capable for running any program or have any feature that they see anyone else using. I have meet people who chose phones and computers based on colour and then are upset when they discover their new shiny toy can't do whatever they expected it to. Part of the problem is that most electronics are magic black boxes to many folks. In that world assuming all computers run Skype is not a particularly wild assumption.
I used to be an area manager in a call center, and as such only dealt with the truly crazy folks (escalation path was tech, RS, team manager, area manager) and two of the standout calls were a very angry lady whose laptop WiFi did not work in the middle of the great lakes on the yacht, since it worked just fine in the marina and a wall street broker who was pissed about his desktop not working in a blackout, since his laptop and cell phone worked just fine. These both were senior folks who worked for large companies and yet they had absolutely no clue about how things worked and were pissed that my support folks were not fixing their issues. Had another person who demanded to return his laptop since it needed to be plugged in to charge.
Presumably, the exceedingly small subset of folks who can't work out how to install Microsoft's Skype on their cell phones.
It happens with TVs as well. I used to work for a company that built custom computers and home theater systems (we were integrating computers into entertainment systems long before Media PCs were a thing).
There is also the "Skype on Pi4" thread.
Depends on the rant. People often respond in kind, so if someone posts an emotional rant, they should expect a similar response (especially when the rant is pure nonsense).
It's not just "Computer" ignorance, it seems to be everywhere.Computer ignorance may be the norm nowadays, but that doesn't make it right.
They are the best entertainment(especially when the rant is pure nonsense).
Some men just want to watch the world burn...
Probably, although the instant gratification and perceived anonymity of the Internet certainly hasn't helped.Or have they always been there and we now only notice them because the net allows a wider audience and instant response?
Sure, if you could somehow filter out the trolls.AI programs that analyze twitter tweets can be used to forecast public opinion and elections.
Could these first time posters be analyzed for ways to moderate Pi expectations.
Would that have made a difference?In hindsight would Eben have said "Desktop level of performance"?
No matter how carefully you word something, someone will find a way to be upset.It is getting so everything we say has to be analyzed to avoid upsetting someone.
QFTNot so much when it comes from a President
Can I also complain about the RPI4 because it can't run Crysis?
There have certainly been posts from people who fairly clearly expected to run Windows on various models of Pi. Plus all the people who seem to think that they can just shove an x86 .exe file onto a Pi and have it run as is.
I'd rate that as moderately likely. Anyone already running Linux on x86 hardware is going to be at least aware that "PC" doesn't mean MS Windows automatically.Linux PC users might have different expectations?
I don't know what the current breakdown is. Macs peaked at about 10% of all "PCs", but I believe that number is down now. So at a rough guess, MacOS 6-8%, Linux 2-3%, MS Windows about 90%.What percentage of Desktops run Linux/Windows/MacOS?
But is it really marketing hyperbole? I think we've already established that the Pi4 is perfectly suitable as a desktop replacement for some here. So how many does it take before it's not hyperbole?
Well, the Pi Zero is much faster than the Cray super computer from years past. "super computer", surely that surpasses desktop use right?
As far as I'm concerned, he could have got away with saying that about the Pi 4 with 4GB.In hindsight would Eben have said "Desktop level of performance"?
Yes, agreed, nonsense.
Time to sort this out, I might need to print something one dayI've said before if it wasn;t for the lack of printing ability (not the Pis fault) it would be completely replacing my 'real' Desktop PC.
Got a problem with a post? Report it, even if it's from a moderator.diogen151 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:48 amIn the deleted post, I wrote, briefly, to partially agree with the original Poster. Skype does not determine whether a computer is a desktop PC or not, and at the same time Skype is present on all major platforms (Windows, Android, Mac, iOS) and the result is that my moderator deleted the post with very offensive and defamatory messages like "Microsoft lakey ".
I also posted some relevant links (Skype, RPi, Wikipedia)
Isn't that showing the argument of strength, not the strength of argument from a moderator position?
Would you welcome the idea of proposing or suggesting Microsoft to include Raspbian (64-bit) on the list of supported Skype platforms?