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Raspberry Pi Model B Revision 2.0 (512MB) Changes
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Created on: Oct 11, 2012 4:09 PM by vandana - Last Modified: Oct 15, 2012 2:56 AM by Ankur Tomar

Raspberry Pi Model B 512MB will be shipped, from the date of this change note onwards, with a newly increased SDRAM capacity of 512 MB rather than the previously shipped 256 MB capacity. For all other information and technical documents please refer to http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-42993

Just clicking around this was posted on their site and updated 10 minutes ago.

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Re: Raspberry Pi with 512mb RAM in the Wild and Element14...

Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:10 am

I get the distinct impression that Farnell have cocked up (again) and they think the Rev 2 has an additional 256MB RAM, when it doesn't. Happy to be proven wrong (although I think it will really mess up development which will skew towards the "fatter" 512MB model, leaving early adopters of the 256MB model increasingly isolated).

I've got two new Pi's in transit from Farnell, ordered on 5 October, wondering what will actually arrive (should have been delivered on Friday but Royal Mail stuffed up the delivery - redelivery will be attempted tomorrow).
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:12 am

wallarug wrote:Wasn't that said with 512mb as well?
Where? As I recall nobody ever said that. It has always been well known that 512MB chips existed, but simply were too expensive, nobody said they didn't exist.

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:13 am

davorin wrote:I can still order...right now 204 pieces left on stock...though price is twice as high as for the 256MB model...
When I checked, there was no price difference. Still 25 pounds+ VAT. or $38AUD + GST

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:14 am

why hasn't there been any official announcement about this on http://raspberrypi.org ? I would love to see this turn out to be true and still be $35

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:16 am

Jade wrote:why hasn't there been any official announcement about this on http://raspberrypi.org ? I would love to see this turn out to be true and still be $35
No doubt caught out again, as they were with the Rev2 boards appearing in the wild prior to the announcement. Their ability to control their suppliers seems non-existent.

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wallarug wrote:Wasn't that said with 512mb as well?
Where? As I recall nobody ever said that. It has always been well known that 512MB chips existed, but simply were too expensive, nobody said they didn't exist.
You know what I meant. Anyway, Gert said that it is 'possible' for 1GB of RAM to be fitted to the Raspberry Pi but it would mean that there would need to be a processor change - which would not be happening for the next few years.

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:17 am

milhouse wrote:
Jade wrote:why hasn't there been any official announcement about this on http://raspberrypi.org ? I would love to see this turn out to be true and still be $35
No doubt caught out again, as they were with the Rev2 boards appearing in the wild prior to the announcement. Their ability to control their suppliers seems non-existent.
Agreed. Waiting on the front page announcement. It has now been 24 hours since I first noticed this and brought it to the community's attention.

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:22 am

Announcement is strange guess the distributors might have jumped ahead and not notified them of this. Guess they can't announce something unless they know distributors are ready emergency website updates the push through first thing monday morning.
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:23 am

brainsys wrote:I detect some emergency spadework in progress at Farnell Towers.
Definitely. You could actually order RASBRRY-MODB-512M item:2191863 on the USA newark site for a time. It was showing under Product Recommendations with a working buy button. $35 at that time.
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:25 am

It's worth noting that RS simply lists 512MB in the specs, but E14 is making a big splash about it - very definitely not just a slip in the spec list. Trouble is, I'm in France and when I try to order from E14 I get redirected to the export site where the spec is still listed as 256MB - so I can't be confident I'll get the right model. E14 is saying 3 weeks for delivery but RS is saying 6 weeks.

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:26 am

wallarug wrote:You know what I meant. Anyway, Gert said that it is 'possible' for 1GB of RAM to be fitted to the Raspberry Pi but it would mean that there would need to be a processor change - which would not be happening for the next few years.
Actually I didn't know what you meant. :shock:
But if your saying that "1G chips exist" as a general statement, that is for any processor, then yes 1G chips do exist, just not for the LPDDR2 technology in the way the BCM2835 uses it.

So yes 1GB POP chips do exist, the third generation iPAD uses such a chip, but that one isn't suitable for the BCM2835 as it's using the wrong interface, and probably pinning. :geek:

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:28 am

http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-50776
That page even has revision numbers for the 512Mb version so I think it looks genuine.
I'll know soon enough ;)
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:33 am

< expletive deleted> great - farnell does it again - release things before an announcement ..
aha well ordered ....

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as for the design

512MB is as big as it can go without a board change - the processor can cope with 1GB IIRC but a redesign would need to be done to sort out the address lines
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:37 am

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2180
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:38 am

Yes, its official now, I no longer need to bite my tongue! :D
All new raspberry PI's will have 512MB for the same price!

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:40 am

milhouse wrote:
Jade wrote:why hasn't there been any official announcement about this on http://raspberrypi.org ? I would love to see this turn out to be true and still be $35
No doubt caught out again, as they were with the Rev2 boards appearing in the wild prior to the announcement. Their ability to control their suppliers seems non-existent.
That a bit unfair - they are manufacturers/distributors, rather than suppliers - and 'controlling them' is not what you do. Although that would be nice and would save a lot of pain.
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:43 am

jamesh wrote: That a bit unfair - they are manufacturers/distributors, rather than suppliers - and 'controlling them' is not what you do. Although that would be nice and would save a lot of pain.
Perhaps a little unfair, but this is not the first time the Foundation has been caught (seemingly) unaware and I'm sure you'd rather it didn't continue, so something obviously needs to improve.

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:46 am

:D yay! took a punt on rumours being true and ordered from the 512 page on the farnel uk site at 15:00 yesterday, order confirmed bu email, no dispatch notice as yet, but is feelin good!

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:48 am

Can the Foundation be responsible for other companies cockups? The thing about people making cockups, is that you are unaware of them until they happen. If you knew they were going to happen there wouldn't be any cockups. Improvements - well, let's hope so, some companies certainly do need to improve. A lot.
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:49 am

Official announcement wrote:I’d like to thank our partners, RS Components and element14/Premier Farnell, and the suppliers, particularly Samsung, Sony and Broadcom, for all their help in delivering a smooth transition to the 512MB
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I'm sure the distributors may deserve actual thanks... still it struck me as funny considering the leaks.
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Re: Raspberry Pi with 512mb RAM in the Wild and Element14...

Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:56 am

Woo, official announcement is here

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Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:57 am

Farnell have now posted an announcement on the subject:

http://www.premierfarnell.com/content/e ... 12mb-board

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