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Win98 on Pi 3 using emulation viable?

Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:29 am

I live in a state that requires my business to take back recycled soda cans. We have machines that read, crush and sort the cans. The program used to complete these tasks requires win98. I find myself constantly trying to find old computers for parts and it has been a hassle keeping all of them running over the years.

I have seen multiple videos and read up a bit on people who have successfully ran win98 on a Pi using emulation. I'm wondering if there is anyway this would be a viable solution to replace those heavy Pentium paper weights.

Do you think it would be possible using the GPIO header on the Pi to connect serial ports (for the printer, scanner, etc.) so that they would be recognized in windows 98? I'm not sure if this would be possible through emulation. Is this a project that's even worth diving into?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Win98 on Pi 3 using emulation viable?

Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:35 am

no,
you will be better off redoing the code so it runs on the PRi
get the source and rebuild it
or start from scratch
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Re: Win98 on Pi 3 using emulation viable?

Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:48 am

it all depends on what the program you have does and what it connects with
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Re: Win98 on Pi 3 using emulation viable?

Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:01 am

jcolkitt wrote:Do you think it would be possible using the GPIO header on the Pi to connect serial ports (for the printer, scanner, etc.) so that they would be recognized in windows 98? I'm not sure if this would be possible through emulation. Is this a project that's even worth diving into?
More likely to work with USB to serial adapters. I suspect it will be horribly slow. It might be an interesting project if you like Win98, but a re-write of the code would probably be more effective.

Is the original program still supported? Is the supplier still around? What is supplied now to operate a new equivalent system? Do you have (or can you get) source code? If so porting it to a Pi is a definite possibility. The supplier might even be interested in buying back a ported program (but be careful with permissions if it is not open source).
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Re: Win98 on Pi 3 using emulation viable?

Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:13 am

Trying to get Windows 98 peripherals to work in will be an exercise in frustration under emulation. There are companies who still sell Legacy Systems / Motherboards such as:

http://www.adek.com

http://www.nixsys.com/motherboards.html?limit=all


Alternatively maybe: https://eltechs.com/run-wine-on-raspberry-pi/
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Re: Win98 on Pi 3 using emulation viable?

Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:20 am

Whats the problem with installing it onto modern hardware ? There is a guide here

http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=41065

another guide here
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/175035- ... re/?page=1

and this is a list of motherboards that work with 98
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/97588-m ... on/?page=1

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Re: Win98 on Pi 3 using emulation viable?

Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:04 pm

jcolkitt wrote:I live in a state that requires my business to take back recycled soda cans. We have machines that read, crush and sort the cans. The program used to complete these tasks requires win98. I find myself constantly trying to find old computers for parts and it has been a hassle keeping all of them running over the years.

I have seen multiple videos and read up a bit on people who have successfully ran win98 on a Pi using emulation. I'm wondering if there is anyway this would be a viable solution to replace those heavy Pentium paper weights.

Do you think it would be possible using the GPIO header on the Pi to connect serial ports (for the printer, scanner, etc.) so that they would be recognized in windows 98? I'm not sure if this would be possible through emulation. Is this a project that's even worth diving into?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
It's not a Pi solution, but I'm pretty sure you could get win98 running in virtualbox on modern hardware, and serial port hardware connected to win98 using pass-thru emulation.

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Re: Win98 on Pi 3 using emulation viable?

Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:56 am

USB-to-serial ports work differently than the
originals. Especially considering this is a Win98 system
which allows "clever" tricks like raw hardware access i'd
be wary to use anything but native serial hardware.

Installing Win98 on modern , real x86/PC hardware seems
like the logical solution to me. One hopes that the software
does not have hardcoded timing loops.

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