tausciam
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:08 pm

Ha. Age, Sex, Location.

You'd ask ASL? when you met someone

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davidcoton
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:14 pm

Heater wrote:OK, I'm nearly 60. What the hell is ASL?
Above Sea Level.

It all depends on context? And noobs don't have the grasp of context. That is part of the problem.
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Heater
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:25 pm

tausciam,

You'd ask ASL? when you met someone

Well, how weird is that? Normally when I meet people I can have a good guess at their age and gender. And normally I have a good idea of our location.

On the otherhand meeting on the internet they have no need to know any of that.

73 OM
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Pithagoros
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:34 pm

Perhaps some of these people who come up on the forum and ask a question for which the answer can easily be searched are looking for something more than just an answer.

Maybe their own search wasn't clear, or they were flooded with a load of contradictory solutions (very likely).

But really, I think many of them are looking to engage, ask for follow up clarifications, get to know people on the board, become part of the community. People see human interaction and social connection as an important part of any leisure activity.

So engage them, make the experience two-way, welcome them and draw them in.

FlexibleSigmoid
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:36 pm

So something like a thread for people to discuss why they are here? viewtopic.php?f=63&t=319

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:39 pm

Pithagoros:
Astute.
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:39 pm

@FlexibleSigmoid with a username like that you are a natural for the role of Forum Enforcer of the Rules, or else...

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:40 pm

FlexibleSigmoid wrote:So something like a thread for people to discuss why they are here? viewtopic.php?f=63&t=319
No. That's like awkward small talk. Talking about the Pi itself gives purpose.

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:42 pm

Pithagoros,
People see human interaction and social connection as an important part of any leisure activity.
Maybe. Never did understand it.
Memory in C++ is a leaky abstraction .

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:49 pm

Heater wrote:Pithagoros,
People see human interaction and social connection as an important part of any leisure activity.
Maybe. Never did understand it.
Same here. I blame it on aging highly functioning brain cells, starting to fade away, lots of that happening, apparently.
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:50 pm

Heater wrote:73 OM
But if you haven't asked ASL how do you know OM (and not YL) is correct?
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:51 pm

gregeric wrote:@FlexibleSigmoid with a username like that you are a natural for the role of Forum Enforcer of the Rules, or else...
Thanks! Was waiting to see who would get the first insult in.

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Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:53 pm

Or I go on training course regularly to learn new stuff, I want to hear a human give the benefit of their experience - and I can stop that trainer to clarify a point.

But why? Surely everything I need to know is in the documentation? What's the point of a course with a human trainer? Why don't I just go and RTFM?

OK, so the real learning happens after the course when I get hands on and do things for real. But the course is the fast-track into it, the leg-up, the push to get things moving.

What I'm saying is, that to get things going, reading tedious manuals and stale web pages doesn't work for everybody.

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:54 pm

FlexibleSigmoid wrote:
gregeric wrote:@FlexibleSigmoid with a username like that you are a natural for the role of Forum Enforcer of the Rules, or else...
Thanks! Was waiting to see who would get the first insult in.
Well, you chose the name. No idea why...

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:56 pm

FlexibleSigmoid wrote:
gregeric wrote:@FlexibleSigmoid with a username like that you are a natural for the role of Forum Enforcer of the Rules, or else...
Thanks! Was waiting to see who would get the first insult in.
It is a bad flag, burn it
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:59 pm

Heater wrote:OK, I'm nearly 60. What the hell is ASL?

Google is not helping.
American Sign Language?

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:01 pm

Well, I do appreciate the warm welcome. And I think I'll keep the name.

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:04 pm

davidcoton,

Well, I think it's rude to ask people when you meet them, face to face, "How old are you?" and "What is you gender?"

On a forum like this, answering any technical question does not need that information. If we get into a discussion and they want to say such things that's another matter.

My "73 OM" thing was tongue in cheek. A reflection on the fact that such slang, shorthand and acronyms come and go all the time. If you are from the wrong place or the wrong time you have no chance to know what they mean.
Memory in C++ is a leaky abstraction .

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:07 pm

FlexibleSigmoid,

So why did you choose such a gross user name?
Memory in C++ is a leaky abstraction .

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:08 pm

Heater wrote:davidcoton,

Well, I think it's rude to ask people when you meet them, face to face, "How old are you?" and "What is you gender?"

On a forum like this, answering any technical question does not need that information. If we get into a discussion and they want to say such things that's another matter.

My "73 OM" thing was tongue in cheek. A reflection on the fact that such slang, shorthand and acronyms come and go all the time. If you are from the wrong place or the wrong time you have no chance to know what they mean.
+1

As long as the question is articulate it does not matter the users background.
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't.

FlexibleSigmoid
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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:09 pm

Heater wrote:FlexibleSigmoid, So why did you choose such a gross user name?
Because I have the gross job of helping people prevent and detect icky colon cancer.

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:11 pm

kusti8 wrote:+1

As long as the question is articulate it does not matter the users background.
That wasn't even the point I was trying to make. Forget it... Have fun storming the castle boys... (Joan's a man right?)

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:18 pm

FlexibleSigmoid wrote:
Heater wrote:FlexibleSigmoid, So why did you choose such a gross user name?
Because I have the gross job of helping people prevent and detect icky colon cancer.
And there I was thinking you liked maths functions!
Or, put it another way, O gee!

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:19 pm

FlexibleSigmoid,
Because I have the gross job of helping people prevent and detect icky colon cancer.
Cool. Keep it up.

As it were.
Memory in C++ is a leaky abstraction .

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Re: Welcoming to new members

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:25 pm

FlexibleSigmoid wrote:
gregeric wrote:@FlexibleSigmoid with a username like that you are a natural for the role of Forum Enforcer of the Rules, or else...
Thanks! Was waiting to see who would get the first insult in.
I can't see how that could be construed as an insult... I live with UC and don't need reminding what I'm due for at my next appointment when I'm on a computer forum lol.

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