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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:01 am
by rpdom
W. H. Heydt wrote:
EULERPI wrote:As a newbie to the forum I haven't got a reputation to lose and
refer you to my earlier post on this topic and add:

What have the Pi foundation been really good at?: repurposing silicon that was used in something else.

So have they put the Pi2 CPU/GPU Soc into the Pi Zero version 2 and possibly added software in last weeks version of Jessie to select the number of cores to be used depending on the thermal performance of the IC and the power consumption required of the application?.

That would require no form factor change and no new Soc.

Perhaps the built in test hardware in the ARM CPU can be interrogated by the new version of Jessie so when an original version Pi Zero is detected the number of cores reported via the OS is one and clock range also set appropriately.
It has already been stated that there is no change to the SoC.
It's not even possible without major changes as the Pi2 SoC doesn't have the connections for PoP RAM. The RAM chip would need to be mounted elsewhere on the board, and there just isn't room for it.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:09 am
by Gavinmc42
Someone should have done a countdown clock.
Pi Zero time = EST, UTC?

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:38 am
by Tzarls
If stores in the UK open their doors at 8am (and update their sites at that same time) then we still have to wait for 1 hour and 24 minutes.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:43 am
by hansotten
Pimoroni have a Bilge tank at 9

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:59 am
by Tzarls
Ok, so it´s a camera port.

https://www.adafruit.com/products/2885

Who predicted that?

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:01 am
by Paul Webster
Just saw the same
"
Note: As of May 16th, 3 A.M. EDT Adafruit is now selling version 2 of the Pi Zero. Version 2 is updated to include a camera port. The new Pi Zero camera port only works with a Raspberry Pi Zero Camera Cable. It DOES NOT work with a standard Raspberry Pi Camera cable."

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:03 am
by Tzarls
And based on the pictures at the site, the listing at craiglist with the v1.3 photo was legit.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:06 am
by jamesh
Tzarls wrote:And based on the pictures at the site, the listing at craiglist with the v1.3 photo was legit.
$25 doesn't sound too legit!

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:09 am
by Tzarls
jamesh wrote:
Tzarls wrote:And based on the pictures at the site, the listing at craiglist with the v1.3 photo was legit.
$25 doesn't sound too legit!
:lol:

What I wanted to say is: it was a photo of the real thing.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:11 am
by fanoush
imgur YiQw71t

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:16 am
by Tzarls
Funny... can´t find any other distributor with the RPi Zero in stock yet.
At what time do you plan to update the blog? I hope the servers (RPis, right?) can handle the traffic as well as they did the last time you announced something.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:22 am
by jamesh
9am is customary.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:35 am
by Tzarls
That's 3am for me.... Sadly I won't be able to read it until much later.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:38 am
by Gavinmc42
And it is daylight saving time in UK.
So we find out 1 hour early in TROTW?

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:41 am
by CarlRJ
Tzarls wrote:Ok, so it´s a camera port.

https://www.adafruit.com/products/2885
And... maybe the link went live before they'd planned? Now it produces, "Sorry, the product was not found."

But we should keep guessing about what the new feature might be... ;)

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:46 am
by Gavinmc42
And keep refreshing pihut's webpage until it crashes?
That'll teach em.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:46 am
by Tzarls
Aha! So we were really lucky to find it? Or maybe it was meant to fool us into thinking the new feature is a camera connector when it really is something else? Mmmmm.... :o

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:52 am
by Paul Webster
Presumably it will reappear at Adafruit at 8AM UK local time based on " As of May 16th, 3 A.M. EDT"...

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 7:07 am
by karrika
The camera port was not a bad decision. It is available on all the other models so it makes sense to add it to the Zero.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 7:10 am
by Gavinmc42
8:07am UK already.
Going to do it at Pi time - 3:14pm?
1:14am my time.
Wake up tomorrow and no more Pi Zero's, 250k gone :cry:

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 7:13 am
by Ashleyhackett
Still no luck hopefully 9 am for sure

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 7:28 am
by EULERPI
rpdom wrote:
W. H. Heydt wrote:
EULERPI wrote:As a newbie to the forum I haven't got a reputation to lose and
refer you to my earlier post on this topic and add:

What have the Pi foundation been really good at?: repurposing silicon that was used in something else.

So have they put the Pi2 CPU/GPU Soc into the Pi Zero version 2 and possibly added software in last weeks version of Jessie to select the number of cores to be used depending on the thermal performance of the IC and the power consumption required of the application?.

That would require no form factor change and no new Soc.

Perhaps the built in test hardware in the ARM CPU can be interrogated by the new version of Jessie so when an original version Pi Zero is detected the number of cores reported via the OS is one and clock range also set appropriately.
It has already been stated that there is no change to the SoC.
It's not even possible without major changes as the Pi2 SoC doesn't have the connections for PoP RAM. The RAM chip would need to be mounted elsewhere on the board, and there just isn't room for it.
That's a shame. I didn't know the SoC bare die 'pin' out for the Pi SoCs had been published.

I will have to go back to dreaming. Many thanks.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 7:29 am
by Gavinmc42
Someone is awake at Adafruit.
Some other videos just went up.
Found this pic, it's a big yellow switch, don't remember asking for that.

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 7:42 am
by blaablaaguy
Its a camera thing? How dissapointing. I wanted a blue led. Maybe next time...

PS: Was that that edited sig python 3 or something?

PPS: I got an visible invisible pink unicirn with my pi zero

PPP: I like postscripts

Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 8:01 am
by Pithagoros
Well, I've ordered mine.
Still don't know what the new feature is.