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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 1:28 am

TimG wrote:Are CSI connectors all that expensive, do you think?
The track routing would require a double sided board (plus the csi connector) which increases fab costs.

EDIT: Beaten to it. Also a camera shouldn't require a firmware upgrade as the zero is essentially an A-

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 1:34 am

Of all the possible enhancements a real-time clock would be, to me anyway, the least useful.

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 1:51 am

exartemarte wrote:Of all the possible enhancements a real-time clock would be, to me anyway, the least useful.
Well, if it's not an rtc, perhaps an ADC?

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 2:13 am

asandford wrote:
exartemarte wrote:Of all the possible enhancements a real-time clock would be, to me anyway, the least useful.
Well, if it's not an rtc, perhaps an ADC?
That would be really handy. An obvious use would be monitoring the battery voltage on a mobile robot.

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 2:47 am

exartemarte wrote:
asandford wrote:
exartemarte wrote:Of all the possible enhancements a real-time clock would be, to me anyway, the least useful.
Well, if it's not an rtc, perhaps an ADC?
That would be really handy. An obvious use would be monitoring the battery voltage on a mobile robot.
The project I'm going to do is the exact opposite. I could make very good use of a built-in RTC, but I have absolutely no use for an ADC.

Most likely added feature that I've seen anyone suggest would be header holes for analog audio output.

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 3:12 am

Audio header would be cool and zero cost.
The Zero would make a interesting mp3 player.
Plug in Din size console dash car audio etc.
Expect Rockbox to be ported to it?

Maybe a RGB led, then pick your own effects?

New packaging would be best, as in they only come in six packs 8-)
I don't want one, I want lots.

Camera connector would be my preference just for robotics.
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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 3:17 am

Are we going to make them lock Liz's own thread? Sheesh, just wait a few days.

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 3:44 am

Douglas6 wrote:Are we going to make them lock Liz's own thread? Sheesh, just wait a few days.
"But I want an Oompa-Loompa NOW, daddy!" ;)

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 4:24 am

"Are we there yet?"
"Nearly"

It it going to be ho hum or wow?
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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 4:56 am

Gavinmc42 wrote:"Are we there yet?"
"Nearly"

It it going to be ho hum or wow?
If it turns out to be a feature you REALLY want, it'll be "wow". If it turns out to be a feature you're not interested in, it'll be "ho hum". Either way, we *should* find out Monday. (But, then, I thought to new feature would be announced when the new version of the boards went into production...)

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 5:42 am

I believe I got the new feature. Obviously it needs a change in the firmware so it could be audio pins, 2nd UART pins or power on/off circuitry.

As there is actually place for a power on / shutdown chip that was not occupied in the old PiZero my bet is that it is now occupied together with holes for a button. In any case I will be watching the wheresmypizero site until it turn green. Only 48 hours left...

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 6:04 am

karrika wrote:I believe I got the new feature. Obviously it needs a change in the firmware so it could be audio pins, 2nd UART pins or power on/off circuitry.

As there is actually place for a power on / shutdown chip that was not occupied in the old PiZero my bet is that it is now occupied together with holes for a button. In any case I will be watching the wheresmypizero site until it turn green. Only 48 hours left...
Several models of Pi have had the reset header holes for some time now. Adding an actual power off feature would...cost extra. So that's out. Why would a second UART be added to the Pi Zero? Wouldn't that first appear on other Pi models? Audio out wouldn't need a firmware change. That function is present for other Pis (including the logically identical A+).

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 6:24 am

W. H. Heydt wrote:Why would a second UART be added to the Pi Zero? Wouldn't that first appear on other Pi models?
The Pi3 rerouted the better UART for Bluetooth and left the mini-UART to the GPIO pins. Perhaps both UART's could have pins. This would allow you to use the mini-UART for the console and leave the better UART for DMX, MIDI, Bluetooth, robotics, sensors.

But you may be right that the few cents for an extra chip is not the way to go.

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 7:48 am

W. H. Heydt wrote:Audio out wouldn't need a firmware change.
It would need the PWM pin muxing defined in https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware ... t-blob.dts - and yes I did check to see if there was a Zero Rev1.3 section in yesterday's release, but no, not yet, hmmmpf.

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 10:47 am

Douglas6 wrote:Are we going to make them lock Liz's own thread? Sheesh, just wait a few days.
We finally have a new pi zero thread where we can speculate all we want. We shall not let it go to waste! :mrgreen:

Maybe its a pink led
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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 11:55 am

I think that it's a detector of 'Pink Unicorn Dancing on Rainbow' videos.
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Sat May 14, 2016 12:42 pm

Jednorozec wrote:I think that it's a detector of 'Pink Unicorn Dancing on Rainbow' videos.
These unicorn jokes arent funny anymore
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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 12:46 pm

blaablaaguy wrote:
Jednorozec wrote:I think that it's a detector of 'Pink Unicorn Dancing on Rainbow' videos.
These unicorn jokes arent funny anymore
Or maybe you're just a unicorn ...
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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 1:05 pm

CarlRJ wrote:Blue LEDs are just short of miraculous
I paid £2 for my first blue LED in the early days. Ironically it's still sitting in a component drawer.
CarlRJ wrote:but way too many companies don't understand the responsible use of blue LEDs
The blue LED on my UMC (Technika) TV is a rare example of getting it right. One of the few I have seen which is low enough brightness that I don't notice it even though it's in my field of vision.
CarlRJ wrote:Smashing them or covering them with electrical tape is messy, and kills the information along with the illumination.
I usually open the case and use layers of masking tape inside to reduce brightness. Where it is rented equipment I will use layers of sellotape which will usually reduce brightness enough but still keep things usable.

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 1:41 pm

kusti8 wrote:
blaablaaguy wrote:
Jednorozec wrote:I think that it's a detector of 'Pink Unicorn Dancing on Rainbow' videos.
These unicorn jokes arent funny anymore
Or maybe you're just a unicorn ...
Unicorns dont have fingers. I wouldnt be able to use a keyboard if i was a unicorn
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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 1:43 pm

Let me guess: It is the forklift! What kid would not want one of those? Shipping would be a killer though...

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 1:53 pm

blaablaaguy wrote:
kusti8 wrote:
blaablaaguy wrote: These unicorn jokes arent funny anymore
Or maybe you're just a unicorn ...
Unicorns dont have fingers. I wouldnt be able to use a keyboard if i was a unicorn
But unicorns have magic, so they don't need fingers.
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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 2:02 pm

Mine hunts and pecks with his horn.

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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 2:18 pm

kusti8 wrote: But unicorns have magic, so they don't need fingers.
Knew that was coming :roll:
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Re: A picture from The Pi Hut

Sat May 14, 2016 3:06 pm

Don't worry, folks: I've no intention of closing this thread UNLESS you start shouting at each other (so don't). Speculate away!
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