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Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:25 am
by napajedlaci.cz
Where do I download wheezy? Thank you for the URL.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:28 am
by PeterO
Wheezy is depreciated. It has even been removed from the download page.
You should be using Jessie now. https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
PeterO

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:29 am
by RaTTuS
why not jessie
"embrace the new!"

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:49 am
by fruitoftheloom
napajedlaci.cz wrote:Where do I download wheezy? Thank you for the URL.
Last release of Wheezy was July 2015 http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/images

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:38 am
by scruss

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:55 am
by fruitoftheloom
After THREE MONTHS the OP would of found out I put the wrong date in, anyway Wheezy is EOL !!

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:35 pm
by scruss
These answers stick around longer in search engines' memory than just the OP's query.

I can't see any reason for running Wheezy either, but people keep asking.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:51 pm
by Heater
napajedlaci.cz never really needed wheezy for any particular reason.

Else he would have been back here in that last few months.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:16 pm
by blaablaaguy
scruss wrote:These answers stick around longer in search engines' memory than just the OP's query.

I can't see any reason for running Wheezy either, but people keep asking.
Because Jessie broke 4gb sd cards. :(

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:23 pm
by kusti8
blaablaaguy wrote:
scruss wrote:These answers stick around longer in search engines' memory than just the OP's query.

I can't see any reason for running Wheezy either, but people keep asking.
Because Jessie broke 4gb sd cards. :(
Which is why there is Jessie Lite.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:38 pm
by blaablaaguy
kusti8 wrote:
blaablaaguy wrote:
scruss wrote:These answers stick around longer in search engines' memory than just the OP's query.

I can't see any reason for running Wheezy either, but people keep asking.
Because Jessie broke 4gb sd cards. :(
Which is why there is Jessie Lite.
Jessie Lites has no gui. Its only for the uber 31337

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:48 pm
by ShiftPlusOne
blaablaaguy wrote: Jessie Lites has no gui. Its only for the uber 31337

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sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends raspberrypi-ui-mods

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:05 am
by shuckle
My reason to still use wheezy is that streaming camera works easier than in jessie.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:32 am
by Heater
shuckle,
My reason to still use wheezy is that streaming camera works easier than in jessie.
It would be interesting to here what problems you have had with that on Jessie. It's next on my list of things to do.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 10:29 am
by Jednorozec
Another reason to use Wheezy is that it doesn't use systemd(emonic). Also, the version of Nautilus is very much better than the one in Jessie.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 10:41 am
by Heater
Jednorozec,

I hear a lot of criticism of systemd. I have not looked into it enough to know how much of that is warranted. I however my experience with it on the desktop and the Pi has been as follows.

In general use one does not even know it's there. Seems to et everything working fine just like SysV Init did.

When do actually want get something running as a service at boot time a systemd .service file is short and sweet and sytemctl makes enable/disable, start/stop very easy. A lot nicer than hacking scripts.

Example: My propanel.service

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[Service]
WorkingDirectory=/home/pi/propanel
ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/node --expose-gc /home/pi/propanel/assets/server-bundle.js
Restart=always
StandardOutput=syslog
StandardError=syslog
SyslogIdentifier=propanel
User=root
Group=root
Environment=NODE_ENV=production

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 10:46 am
by fruitoftheloom
Jednorozec wrote:Another reason to use Wheezy is that it doesn't use systemd(emonic). Also, the version of Nautilus is very much better than the one in Jessie.
The issue with Wheezy is it does not natively boot on a RPi 3B or Zero, so you need an older RPi to update Wheezy first.

If SystemD is a perceived issue, then there is always Slackware.....

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 11:48 am
by shuckle
Heater wrote:shuckle,
My reason to still use wheezy is that streaming camera works easier than in jessie.
It would be interesting to here what problems you have had with that on Jessie. It's next on my list of things to do.
You can see the issue here:
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=142279

I was able to get it to work by adding :demux=h264 as explained in
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=146597
But it still is not as reliable as with wheezy (where it has not yet ever failed).

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 11:52 am
by shuckle
Heater wrote:Jednorozec,

I hear a lot of criticism of systemd. I have not looked into it enough to know how much of that is warranted. I however my experience with it on the desktop and the Pi has been as follows.

In general use one does not even know it's there. Seems to et everything working fine just like SysV Init did.

When do actually want get something running as a service at boot time a systemd .service file is short and sweet and sytemctl makes enable/disable, start/stop very easy. A lot nicer than hacking scripts.

Example: My propanel.service

Code: Select all

[Service]
WorkingDirectory=/home/pi/propanel
ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/node --expose-gc /home/pi/propanel/assets/server-bundle.js
Restart=always
StandardOutput=syslog
StandardError=syslog
SyslogIdentifier=propanel
User=root
Group=root
Environment=NODE_ENV=production

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
There is a common problem mentioned several times in the forums that rc.local is not working with systemd as it used to work in wheezy. There is no quarantee that rc.local runs when the system is really up. I have had to add sleeps into rc.local so that my code works normally. Not a big deal, but nasty when you face it first time (and it slows down the jessie boot making it slower than wheezy)

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:04 pm
by 6by9
shuckle wrote:
Heater wrote:shuckle,
My reason to still use wheezy is that streaming camera works easier than in jessie.
It would be interesting to here what problems you have had with that on Jessie. It's next on my list of things to do.
You can see the issue here:
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=142279

I was able to get it to work by adding :demux=h264 as explained in
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=146597
But it still is not as reliable as with wheezy (where it has not yet ever failed).
I've commented on your first thread. If we can nail it down to a kernel/firmware vs VLC change, then it can be taken further.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:09 pm
by RaTTuS
shuckle wrote:...
There is a common problem mentioned several times in the forums that rc.local is not working with systemd as it used to work in wheezy. There is no quarantee that rc.local runs when the system is really up. I have had to add sleeps into rc.local so that my code works normally. Not a big deal, but nasty when you face it first time (and it slows down the jessie boot making it slower than wheezy)
there are better ways of running things at start using systemd than using rc.lcoal

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:23 pm
by Heater
shuckle,
rc.local is not working with systemd as it used to work in wheezy. There is no quarantee that rc.local runs when the system is really up. I have had to add sleeps into rc.local so that my code works normally. Not a big deal, but nasty when you face it first time
So the problem is that something changed. Admittedly that is a bit annoying when it happens before
one is aware that it might.

However one should not be using rc.local anyway it has been depreciated in Debian for a decade and a half. The recommended way is copy /etc/init.d/Skeleton to a new init script for whatever you want to happen while changing runlevels, then use insserv to enable it.

See article here:
http://bencane.com/2011/12/30/when-its- ... -rc-local/

And Debian docs here:
https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/ ... yBasedBoot

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:43 pm
by shuckle
Heater,

I do not think it is obsolete:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=124740

And it sure is simpler that building a real startup script.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:51 pm
by Heater
No, not "obsolete", "deprecated".

It is provided for the use of the system administrator and compatibility reasons. As it says in the forum you linked to.

That implies to me that it is not the recommended thing to use.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 2:30 pm
by mikerr
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Jednorozec wrote:Another reason to use Wheezy is that it doesn't use systemd(emonic). Also, the version of Nautilus is very much better than the one in Jessie.
The issue with Wheezy is it does not natively boot on a RPi 3B or Zero, so you need an older RPi to update Wheezy first.
I took the last Raspbian Wheezy (2015-05-07) and updated it to run on pi zero & pi3 :
https://sourceforge.net/projects/raspbian-wheezy-pi/
1.3GB download, needs at least 4GB SD card