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Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 2:36 pm
by 6by9
mikerr wrote:I took the last Raspbian Wheezy (2015-05-07) and updated it to run on pi zero & pi3 :
https://sourceforge.net/projects/raspbian-wheezy-pi/
1.3GB download, needs at least 4GB SD card
"Heh guys, here's a random image which could contain numerous random back doors!"
I can be reasonably confident you wouldn't, but advertising random images for installation ought to sound alarm bells for most people.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 2:42 pm
by mfa298
shuckle wrote: There is a common problem mentioned several times in the forums that rc.local is not working with systemd as it used to work in wheezy. There is no quarantee that rc.local runs when the system is really up. I have had to add sleeps into rc.local so that my code works normally. Not a big deal, but nasty when you face it first time (and it slows down the jessie boot making it slower than wheezy)
rc.local has only ever been a hackish way of starting things at boot. Writing a proper sysvinit script, upstart config, systemd config is generally much better as it provides a way to start/stop the service easily as well as enable/disable it at boot time and have some dependency stuff. With upstart/systemd there is also support for monitoring a service and restarting if it crashes.

If you really want to go back to the 80's technology of sysvinit scripts I believe Jessie supports replacing systemd with sysvinit (or upstart). However I'd suggest learning to write a systemd config file for your services first, it's not that hard and much more powerful than just putting a line into rc.local.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:00 pm
by shuckle
Come on!
I only start camera streaming. I never have any reason to touch it after it starts. If it fails, I need to poweroff the system anyway.
You seriously recommend to create systemd startup scripts instead of putting this one line to rc.local?:

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/usr/bin/cvlc -d v4l2:///dev/video0:chroma="H264":width=1296:height=972:fps=5 --sout="#rtp{sdp=rtsp://:8888/h264}"
rc.local is there for a reason. It makes life simple. It works in all linux versions. No maintaining.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:35 pm
by ejolson
6by9 wrote:
mikerr wrote:I took the last Raspbian Wheezy (2015-05-07) and updated it to run on pi zero & pi3 :
https://sourceforge.net/projects/raspbian-wheezy-pi/
1.3GB download, needs at least 4GB SD card
"Heh guys, here's a random image which could contain numerous random back doors!"
I can be reasonably confident you wouldn't, but advertising random images for installation ought to sound alarm bells for most people.
Your point is well taken. The same is true for any program obtained from an unknown source. Different needs require different levels of trust and accountability. In this case the image was released by a forum member who has released operating system images in the past that worked well. There could still be issues, but at any rate the image isn't exactly random.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:34 am
by mikerr
ShiftPlusOne pointed out a link to nightly builds of wheezy in another thread,
viewtopic.php?f=91&t=149940&p=985745#p985745

current daily builds appear to be broken, but this one from April works on Pi3 and Zero:
http://build-master.raspberrypi.org/nig ... eezy-1.zip

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:40 pm
by mikerr
To get Pi-3 internal wifi working under wheezy:

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sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
Add the following line :

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deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian jessie main

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firmware-brcm80211

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:07 am
by Al Capern
My reason for using Wheezy is that Jessie absolutely hates WiFi dongles. Systems that continuously sent data for months using Wheezy fell over as soon as I ?upgraded to Jessie. Formally reliable WiFi dongles would not connect at all with Jessie. I'm not a Linux whiz and so can't deal with new problems caused by OS. Wheezy works fine thanks.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:50 am
by CarlRJ
Al Capern wrote:My reason for using Wheezy is that Jessie absolutely hates WiFi dongles. Systems that continuously sent data for months using Wheezy fell over as soon as I ?upgraded to Jessie. Formally reliable WiFi dongles would not connect at all with Jessie. I'm not a Linux whiz and so can't deal with new problems caused by OS. Wheezy works fine thanks.
All my Pi's are running Jessie and I've had absolutely zero problems with WiFi dongles (the official one and the often recommended Edimax EW-7811Un, as well as a HubPiWi), on original Raspberry Pi model B's, Pi 2B's, and Pi Zeros. And I have Pi's that have been communicating continuously via MQTT for months at a time. For the $9 that a shiny new, recommended, dongle costs, I'd rather be running the latest, most thoroughly patched and supported version of the OS.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:19 am
by Heater
Jessie loves WIFI dongles. I have a variety here. No problems.

A WIFI dongle can't be a reason for sticking with Wheezy.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:22 am
by klricks
Al Capern wrote:My reason for using Wheezy is that Jessie absolutely hates WiFi dongles. Systems that continuously sent data for months using Wheezy fell over as soon as I ?upgraded to Jessie. Formally reliable WiFi dongles would not connect at all with Jessie. I'm not a Linux whiz and so can't deal with new problems caused by OS. Wheezy works fine thanks.
There are quite a few differences in the Network config between Wheezy and Jessie. Especially a problem if you upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie rather than doing a fresh install. WIFI in setup in Jessie is very easy for most users... just a couple of clicks and enter the PSK..done.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:40 am
by karrika
I just also reverted back to wheezy last week because for some strange reason the spi did not get initialized at every boot on jessie while it worked every time on wheezy. Of course there is some trivial reason /boot/config.txt, some dt overlay missing, systemd, /etc/profile or who knows what. All these problems come with a fresh install of the latest jessie image.

The fact is that whenever you change something for good or for bad it causes problems for the users.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:49 am
by mfa298
As above I've had no issues with wifi on Jessie (I only used wifi on Wheezy a few years ago which did have some issues - but thats not a fair comparison)
karrika wrote:I just also reverted back to wheezy last week because for some strange reason the spi did not get initialized at every boot on jessie while it worked every time on wheezy. Of course there is some trivial reason /boot/config.txt, some dt overlay missing, systemd, /etc/profile or who knows what.
I've not had any issues with SPI on Jessie (I've got a couple of boards using SPI devices). Although having been looking at implementing an SPI library in ruby I see that the kernel interface changed slightly around 3.15 however the wheezy header files seem to have the older interface in even with newer kernels. I don't think that will break anything but some code that should work on Wheezy might not.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:14 pm
by scruss
Al Capern wrote:My reason for using Wheezy is that Jessie absolutely hates WiFi dongles.
Have you tried the power management tricks suggested in this post: Re: Edimax Wifi adapter seems to go to sleep if not used ?

It fixed a problem wifi setup for me, and seems to be holding reliably. And I'm not even sure if my adaptor's an Edimax.

Re: Where do I download wheezy?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:04 am
by caseyfw
For those assuming everyone looking for a copy of wheezy is falling into the XY Problem trap, I was looking for a copy of Wheezy to help recover a client's pi used for digital signage.

It has a corrupted SD card and some files were missing. I was able to restore these from the matching wheezy image.