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Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:56 am
by mundane140
I want to make a sell a product based on Raspberry pi zero. What are the things I need to take care of? :roll:

Any links and resources shedding some light on the topic are appreciated.

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:25 am
by jamesh
Some Things:

Compliance testing for entire product.
Ensure software GPL licence is adhered to.
Might be worth using RO filesystems to give great SD card longevity.

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:08 am
by B.Goode
mundane140 wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:56 am
I want to make a sell a product based on Raspberry pi zero. What are the things I need to take care of? :roll:

Any links and resources shedding some light on the topic are appreciated.


Use of Trademarks is just one concern: https://www.raspberrypi.org/trademark-rules/


Perhaps you should be consulting a lawyer or solicitor who understands the relevant legislation as it applies in the jurisdiction(s) where you produce and sell. Maybe there are local differences that the volunteer helpers in these forums will not be familiar with.

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:37 am
by Paul Webster
Longevity (will the Zero be available for the lifetime of your product?)
Form factor (will you be relying on he shape/weight/connectors? ... could change in the future)

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:54 am
by drgeoff
Price.

Zeros in quantity cost more than the $5 one-off price.

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:18 pm
by fruitoftheloom
mundane140 wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:56 am
I want to make a sell a product based on Raspberry pi zero. What are the things I need to take care of? :roll:

Any links and resources shedding some light on the topic are appreciated.

Utilise the CM3 it has a gaurauntee of availability, 2023 ??

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbe ... programme/

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:42 pm
by Heater
mundane140,
I want to make a sell a product based on Raspberry pi zero.
That sounds like having a business plan based on the free toys that used to fall out of boxes of cornflakes. Do they still do that? Maybe the modern day equivalent is the toys one gets with a McDonald's Happy Meal.

Do check all the licenses of all the software you include in your product and be prepared to comply with them.

Do not use Raspberry Pi Foundation's trade marks inappropriately.

Be ready to may much more for bulk qualtities of Pi Zeros.

Be ready for supply to stop at any time. Unless you have even more money...

Pay attention to all the posts above.

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:01 pm
by DarkPlatinum
drgeoff wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:54 am
Price.

Zeros in quantity cost more than the $5 one-off price.
So your saying that buying in bulk for resale is more expensive?? :o

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:16 pm
by DirkS
DarkPlatinum wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:01 pm
So your saying that buying in bulk for resale is more expensive?? :o
No, buying Pi0 / Pi0W in bulk for use in projects (commercial or not)

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:21 pm
by DarkPlatinum
DirkS wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:16 pm
DarkPlatinum wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:01 pm
So your saying that buying in bulk for resale is more expensive?? :o
No, buying Pi0 / Pi0W in bulk for use in projects (commercial or not)
May I ask why is that? Is under produced?

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:36 pm
by DirkS
DarkPlatinum wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:21 pm
DirkS wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:16 pm
DarkPlatinum wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:01 pm
So your saying that buying in bulk for resale is more expensive?? :o
No, buying Pi0 / Pi0W in bulk for use in projects (commercial or not)
May I ask why is that? Is under produced?
There's virtually no profit on them and you can only buy one at a time.
So you have to pay extra for the privilege to get more than 1 in one go.

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:47 pm
by DarkPlatinum
DirkS wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:36 pm
DarkPlatinum wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:21 pm
DirkS wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:16 pm

No, buying Pi0 / Pi0W in bulk for use in projects (commercial or not)
May I ask why is that? Is under produced?
There's virtually no profit on them and you can only buy one at a time.
So you have to pay extra for the privilege to get more than 1 in one go.
Ah. It is probably one of the reasons why Raspberry Pi are so popular- they are cheap. You can buy 3 Raspberry pi 3B+ or 12 Rpi zero W for the price of 1 odroid xu4.

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:59 pm
by W. H. Heydt
DarkPlatinum wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:47 pm
DirkS wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:36 pm
DarkPlatinum wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:21 pm


May I ask why is that? Is under produced?
There's virtually no profit on them and you can only buy one at a time.
So you have to pay extra for the privilege to get more than 1 in one go.
Ah. It is probably one of the reasons why Raspberry Pi are so popular- they are cheap. You can buy 3 Raspberry pi 3B+ or 12 Rpi zero W for the price of 1 odroid xu4.
The purchase limit is only on the Pi0/Pi0W. There have been short term purchase limits on other Pis--going all the way back to the originial Model B--but only when demand is massively outstripping the supply. IIRC, the Pi3B sold 100K units in the first two days, but the RPF/RPT had planned for that. Besides the extremely narrow profit margins, the Pi0/Pi0W are manufactured by the RPF, so they can only order as many as they can afford to pay the factory for at any given time. (The same is true for other models, but Farnell and RS have vastly deeper pockets, so production can be scaled to the capacity of the manufacturing line....and sometimes even that isn't enough.)

Re: Commercial usage guidelines

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:18 pm
by jamesh
The cheap prices for Zero's are subsidised one off educational prices.

If you want to buy more than one, contact info@raspberrypi.org FAO sales. You will pay more, because after your first purchase you are no longer eligable for the educational price.