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Re: What was your first computer?

Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:51 pm

mine was a pitop lol :D :D :D

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Re: What was your first computer?

Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:15 am

My big brother had a computer with i486 intel chipset. We used to call it 486. I used to play Dave Dangerous on it :lol:

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Re: What was your first computer?

Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:52 am

What has your experience with it, please.
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Re: What was your first computer?

Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:59 am

Sorry, my last message was unclear.
It was meant for RomoBoom and should have read,
"What has your experience with the PiTop been, please?

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Re: What was your first computer?

Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:25 am

My first PC I on was a gigantic Mainframe at a Burroughs. It worked together work however the specialists had "Experience" put away in it's memory which could be played from any of the terminals. I recall as a youngster sitting alongside a monster tape peruser (enormous plate the measure of a little wheel recorded with attractive tape) playing content Adventure on a term while my father worked. My first PC at home was a "Connect" with 4 hues and a tape peruser for sparing fundamental projects you composed. Route relatively revolutionary yet never met any other individual who even knew about them. At that point got a TI 49/a sold by Bill Cosby for Kmart (mangazuki). Got an Apple 2+ and a prologue to "Apple Ciders" programming circles. Got an Apple IIe and my first infection from minimal effort programming sold by my neighborhood arrangement. Next got a XT, AT 12Mzh (these were publicized as so quick they could NEVER go out of date). A Cyrix 486DLC (as I couldn't manage the cost of an Intel 486DX). Pentiums to an AMD K6-333 (utilized this PC for a long time as it was quick enough to do numerous undertakings for quite a while) and on upward to current PCs.

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Re: What was your first computer?

Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:15 pm

mymanga003,
My first PC I on was a gigantic Mainframe at a Burroughs...
No it wasn't. A "PC" is generally taken to mean "Personal Computer" in this context. I'm guessing you did not personally own that gigantic mainframe and it was not there for your personal use.

Sounds like a great "first computer" experience though.

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Re: What was your first computer?

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:27 pm

mymanga003 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:25 am
My first PC I on was a gigantic Mainframe at a Burroughs.
On that basis I claim a CDC 7600 super computer.
Replaced later by a Cray 1 ...

OK, it was one job per day, punched cards ....

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Re: What was your first computer?

Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:05 pm

On that basis I claim that I have no idea what my first PC was.

I connected via a teletype from my Technical College, using a telephone and acoustic coupler. The machine I connected too was a mainframe far away. I don't think I ever knew what it was or at least I have forgotten a long time ago.

I was using BASIC and learning assembly language with the help of a simulator so it was of no concern what the machine actually was.

Or perhaps my first PC was an Intel MDS II. It was certainly the first computer I could see and touch and have exclusive use of.

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I had the disc drives at the bottom so as to get a more natural view angle to the monitor.

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Re: What was your first computer?

Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:44 pm

Heater wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:05 pm
On that basis I claim that I have no idea what my first PC was.
Today PC generally means politically correct and nothing to do with personal.

My understanding is that the term personal computer was coined by Bob Albrecht and George Firedrake as described by the People's Computing Company which in October 1972 started with the following vision
Computers are mostly used against people rather than for people, used to control people rather than free them. Time to change all that--we need a People's Computer Company.
It is notable that this statement was made more than 10 years before Richard Stallman started the GNU project. At some point in time, IBM appropriated the term PC to refer to the 5150, which we know as the original IBM PC. Just like the Raspberry Pi Foundation was unable to trademark the Greek letter Pi, so too was IBM unable to trademark PC. Anyway, around this time PC stopped referring to a computer designed to serve an individual's personal needs and interests to a computer used by a single person in a corporate office setting.

What I find interesting is how little it matters to most people whether they are in control of their computer or whether their computer instead controls them. Given how many dogs actually take their owners for a walk when they go outside, maybe this isn't so surprising. Still, it is worth consciously reflecting on what is at stake when trading the freedom which comes from open-source and writing your own for the convenience and resulting digital feudalism which comes from using software owned and controlled by a corporation or someone else.

Having said this, from a childish point of view everything in the world is a toy. Thus, for a child to consider a mainframe owned by someone else to be their own personal computer is natural, even though a wise adult knows otherwise. This is also why keeping the price point of the Raspberry Pi cheap enough so a child can own it is an effective way to encourage learning that might otherwise disrupt the use of more expensive machines.

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Re: What was your first computer?

Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:12 pm

ejolson,
Today PC generally means politically correct and nothing to do with personal.
Well, I did say one post up that ""PC" is generally taken to mean "Personal Computer" in this context". We are talking about computers right?

I don't think I had a "politically correct" as kid. Actually I still don't have one.

Anyway I disagree that PC generally means "politically correct" now a days. That went out of fashion a decade or two ago. Today it's all SJW this and CoC that. You are right though, I guess most kids today don't think personal computer when they see "PC".

Wikipedia puts "politically correct" way down the list of interpretations, under "other uses".

That's interesting about the "People's Computing Company"

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Re: What was your first computer?

Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:38 pm

Heater wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:12 pm
That's interesting about the "People's Computing Company"
If you would like to see the vision California educators had in the 70's on how computer literacy and personal computing could transform education, back issues of The People's Computer Company are archived on the website of the Computer History Museum here.

From my point of view, the Pi has effectively recaptured the original meaning of personal computer as a computer designed to serve an individual's personal needs and interests. The GPIO and related physical computing projects make the Pi very different from an office computer used in a corporate or home setting. Thus, the Pi appeals to makers, hobbyists, children and educators in much the same way that the original 8-bit microcomputers used to. As this was the original intent, the only thing surprising is that the P in Pi stands for Python rather than personal.

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Re: What was your first computer?

Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:47 pm

mymanga003 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:25 am
My first PC I on was a gigantic Mainframe at a Burroughs. It worked together work however the specialists had "Experience" put away in it's memory which could be played from any of the terminals. I recall as a youngster sitting alongside a monster tape peruser (enormous plate the measure of a little wheel recorded with attractive tape) playing content Adventure on a term while my father worked. My first PC at home was a "Connect" with 4 hues and a tape peruser for sparing fundamental projects you composed. Route relatively revolutionary yet never met any other individual who even knew about them. At that point got a TI 49/a sold by Bill Cosby for Kmart (whatstatus.co). Got an Apple 2+ and a prologue to "Apple Ciders" programming circles. Got an Apple IIe and my first infection from minimal effort programming sold by my neighborhood arrangement. Next got a XT, AT 12Mzh (these were publicized as so quick they could NEVER go out of date). A Cyrix 486DLC (as I couldn't manage the cost of an Intel 486DX). Pentiums to an AMD K6-333 (utilized this PC for a long time as it was quick enough to do numerous undertakings for quite a while) and on upward to current PCs.

I think I may be able claim earliest exposure so far.

My first 'computer' was a Geniac. See Geniac. I got it in about 1956 when I was in junior high. I still have it. Here are photos of the front and back, as I had last configured it to play tic tac toe:

Image

Image

I was disappointed because, though it could perform logic, it was not really a computer.

The first time I got my hands on a real computer was in the summer of 1962. Texas Tech in Lubbock took delivery on an IBM 1620. See IBM 1620. I was between my sophomore and junior years at Rice University, but my summer job back home in Lubbock fell through, so I enrolled in some classes at Tech so I could justify playing with the computer. They had not got the assembler for it (let alone any compiler), so I was reduced to programming in machine language. That was decimal on punched cards. Because it was a variable length word machine I was quickly able to program it to compute e to a great many decimal places. But what I really count as my first program was a program to play 3 dimensional tic tac toe on a 4x4x4 board. It was non-trivial, yet entirely in machine language; and it eventually played a pretty good game. I was delighted the first time it beat me.

I effectively grew up with computing. Computers were so expensive in the early days that the only way you could could play with them was to work for a company that could afford one, so that tended to focus my job seeking. My next summer job was with Shell Development in Houston in 1963, where I did Fortran and assembly language programming on a variant of the IBM 7070. See IBM 7070. Subsequent summers there led to my first experience with a binary computer, the IBM 7094, and one of the first time-shared computers, the SDS 940. See Scientific Data Systems. (On that SDS machine, I set two Fortran versions of my 4x4x4 tic tac toe algorithm against each other. That enabled me to tweak its parameters to the point that I could hardly ever win anymore.)

Though my graduate degree is in mathematics, I stayed with computing for my professional career, managing software development for real-time and scientific applications. Retired now, I still like to play with computers; e.g., simulation of high dimensional analogues of Rubik's Cube. I recently learned Python, and I prefer it to any other programming language I ever used. It is amazing to me that for a few $100 today, you can get a desktop with orders of magnitude more capability than the $million IBM machines I used at Shell. Memory is more than 3 orders of magnitude faster today and more than 7 orders of magnitude cheaper (ignoring considerable inflation).

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Re: What was your first computer?

Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:07 am

ejolson wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:38 pm
From my point of view, the Pi has effectively recaptured the original meaning of personal computer as a computer designed to serve an individual's personal needs and interests. The GPIO and related physical computing projects make the Pi very different from an office computer used in a corporate or home setting. Thus, the Pi appeals to makers, hobbyists, children and educators in much the same way that the original 8-bit microcomputers used to. As this was the original intent, the only thing surprising is that the P in Pi stands for Python rather than personal.
I think the Pi has pushed the personal computer concept down a level. Where the PC idea was "one person, one computer", the Pi gets it to "one task, one computer."

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Re: What was your first computer?

Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:13 am

mymanga003 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:47 pm
The first time I got my hands on a real computer was in the summer of 1962. Texas Tech in Lubbock took delivery on an IBM 1620. See IBM 1620. I was between my sophomore and junior years at Rice University, but my summer job back home in Lubbock fell through, so I enrolled in some classes at Tech so I could justify playing with the computer. They had not got the assembler for it (let alone any compiler), so I was reduced to programming in machine language. That was decimal on punched cards. Because it was a variable length word machine I was quickly able to program it to compute e to a great many decimal places. But what I really count as my first program was a program to play 3 dimensional tic tac toe on a 4x4x4 board. It was non-trivial, yet entirely in machine language; and it eventually played a pretty good game. I was delighted the first time it beat me.
Ah...fond memories of the IBM 1620. San Diego State had a 1620 Mod I (there was a Mod II....the differences were...interesting). My sister was a student operator on it. The assembly language was SPS, and since their 1620 had a disk drive cobbled onto it, it was SPS IID. They also used FORTRAN IID. In the summer of 1964 I got invited to hang around a somewhat informal session and leared both SPS and FORTRAN.

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Re: What was your first computer?

Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:25 am

  • Our first family computer was a Commodore Vic-20, purchased second hand :) My brother and I definitely put it through its paces and did a lot of coding and game playing on it. I had also been exposed to the TRS-80 at a friend's place, as well as booking time on the Apple IIe at the local library to play King's Quest :D We later got a 486 which blew me away at the time!

    Over the years I had an Amiga 500, some Commodore PETs and some big UNIX workstation with terminals that I never did really use. Now it's mostly *NIX on laptops and my Pis. :)

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Re: What was your first computer?

Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:44 am

I feel young I am 13 with a hp pavilion g6
I have a pi3 two arduinos and a build it personality. I will do this!

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Re: What was your first computer?

Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:51 pm

Commodore 64. I still have it but it doesn't work anymore. I suspect it's a fault power supply.

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Re: What was your first computer?

Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:56 pm

Will5455 wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:44 am
I feel young I am 13 with a hp pavilion g6
Congratulations. That is a nice computer. Have you tried Raspberry Pi Desktop on it?

It difficult to imagine, but in 40 years that Pavilion G6 computer will look like this

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compared to what people are currently using--either that or we'll all be using clay tablets because they're more environmentally friendly.

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Re: What was your first computer?

Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:48 am

mymanga003 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:47 pm
mymanga003 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:25 am
My first PC I on was a gigantic Mainframe at a Burroughs. It worked together work however the specialists had "Experience" put away in it's memory which could be played from any of the terminals. I recall as a youngster sitting alongside a monster tape peruser (enormous plate the measure of a little wheel recorded with attractive tape) playing content Adventure on a term while my father worked. My first PC at home was a "Connect" with 4 hues and a tape peruser for sparing fundamental projects you composed. Route relatively revolutionary yet never met any other individual who even knew about them. At that point got a TI 49/a sold by Bill Cosby for Kmart (dragongames.co). Got an Apple 2+ and a prologue to "Apple Ciders" programming circles. Got an Apple IIe and my first infection from minimal effort programming sold by my neighborhood arrangement. Next got a XT, AT 12Mzh (these were publicized as so quick they could NEVER go out of date). A Cyrix 486DLC (as I couldn't manage the cost of an Intel 486DX). Pentiums to an AMD K6-333 (utilized this PC for a long time as it was quick enough to do numerous undertakings for quite a while) and on upward to current PCs.

I think I may be able claim earliest exposure so far.

My first 'computer' was a Geniac. See Geniac. I got it in about 1956 when I was in junior high. I still have it. Here are photos of the front and back, as I had last configured it to play tic tac toe:

Image

Image

I was disappointed because, though it could perform logic, it was not really a computer.

The first time I got my hands on a real computer was in the summer of 1962. Texas Tech in Lubbock took delivery on an IBM 1620. See IBM 1620. I was between my sophomore and junior years at Rice University, but my summer job back home in Lubbock fell through, so I enrolled in some classes at Tech so I could justify playing with the computer. They had not got the assembler for it (let alone any compiler), so I was reduced to programming in machine language. That was decimal on punched cards. Because it was a variable length word machine I was quickly able to program it to compute e to a great many decimal places. But what I really count as my first program was a program to play 3 dimensional tic tac toe on a 4x4x4 board. It was non-trivial, yet entirely in machine language; and it eventually played a pretty good game. I was delighted the first time it beat me.

I effectively grew up with computing. Computers were so expensive in the early days that the only way you could could play with them was to work for a company that could afford one, so that tended to focus my job seeking. My next summer job was with Shell Development in Houston in 1963, where I did Fortran and assembly language programming on a variant of the IBM 7070. See IBM 7070. Subsequent summers there led to my first experience with a binary computer, the IBM 7094, and one of the first time-shared computers, the SDS 940. See Scientific Data Systems. (On that SDS machine, I set two Fortran versions of my 4x4x4 tic tac toe algorithm against each other. That enabled me to tweak its parameters to the point that I could hardly ever win anymore.)

Though my graduate degree is in mathematics, I stayed with computing for my professional career, managing software development for real-time and scientific applications. Retired now, I still like to play with computers; e.g., simulation of high dimensional analogues of Rubik's Cube. I recently learned Python, and I prefer it to any other programming language I ever used. It is amazing to me that for a few $100 today, you can get a desktop with orders of magnitude more capability than the $million IBM machines I used at Shell. Memory is more than 3 orders of magnitude faster today and more than 7 orders of magnitude cheaper (ignoring considerable inflation).
actually this is worst for me. :D

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Re: What was your first computer?

Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:23 am

mymanga003 wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:48 am
mymanga003 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:47 pm
mymanga003 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:25 am
My first PC I on was a gigantic Mainframe at a Burroughs. It worked together work however the specialists had "Experience" put away in it's memory which could be played from any of the terminals. I recall as a youngster sitting alongside a monster tape peruser (enormous plate the measure of a little wheel recorded with attractive tape) playing content Adventure on a term while my father worked. My first PC at home was a "Connect" with 4 hues and a tape peruser for sparing fundamental projects you composed. Route relatively revolutionary yet never met any other individual who even knew about them. At that point got a TI 49/a sold by Bill Cosby for Kmart (scoreheroapk.live). Got an Apple 2+ and a prologue to "Apple Ciders" programming circles. Got an Apple IIe and my first infection from minimal effort programming sold by my neighborhood arrangement. Next got a XT, AT 12Mzh (these were publicized as so quick they could NEVER go out of date). A Cyrix 486DLC (as I couldn't manage the cost of an Intel 486DX). Pentiums to an AMD K6-333 (utilized this PC for a long time as it was quick enough to do numerous undertakings for quite a while) and on upward to current PCs.

I think I may be able claim earliest exposure so far.

My first 'computer' was a Geniac. See Geniac. I got it in about 1956 when I was in junior high. I still have it. Here are photos of the front and back, as I had last configured it to play tic tac toe:

Image

Image

I was disappointed because, though it could perform logic, it was not really a computer.

The first time I got my hands on a real computer was in the summer of 1962. Texas Tech in Lubbock took delivery on an IBM 1620. See IBM 1620. I was between my sophomore and junior years at Rice University, but my summer job back home in Lubbock fell through, so I enrolled in some classes at Tech so I could justify playing with the computer. They had not got the assembler for it (let alone any compiler), so I was reduced to programming in machine language. That was decimal on punched cards. Because it was a variable length word machine I was quickly able to program it to compute e to a great many decimal places. But what I really count as my first program was a program to play 3 dimensional tic tac toe on a 4x4x4 board. It was non-trivial, yet entirely in machine language; and it eventually played a pretty good game. I was delighted the first time it beat me.

I effectively grew up with computing. Computers were so expensive in the early days that the only way you could could play with them was to work for a company that could afford one, so that tended to focus my job seeking. My next summer job was with Shell Development in Houston in 1963, where I did Fortran and assembly language programming on a variant of the IBM 7070. See IBM 7070. Subsequent summers there led to my first experience with a binary computer, the IBM 7094, and one of the first time-shared computers, the SDS 940. See Scientific Data Systems. (On that SDS machine, I set two Fortran versions of my 4x4x4 tic tac toe algorithm against each other. That enabled me to tweak its parameters to the point that I could hardly ever win anymore.)

Though my graduate degree is in mathematics, I stayed with computing for my professional career, managing software development for real-time and scientific applications. Retired now, I still like to play with computers; e.g., simulation of high dimensional analogues of Rubik's Cube. I recently learned Python, and I prefer it to any other programming language I ever used. It is amazing to me that for a few $100 today, you can get a desktop with orders of magnitude more capability than the $million IBM machines I used at Shell. Memory is more than 3 orders of magnitude faster today and more than 7 orders of magnitude cheaper (ignoring considerable inflation).
actually this is worst for me. :D
My sister was a student operator on it. The assembly language was SPS, and since their 1620 had a disk drive cobbled onto it, it was SPS IID. They also used FORTRAN IID. In the summer of 1964 I got invited to hang around a somewhat informal session and leared both SPS and FORTRAN.

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Re: What was your first computer?

Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:07 pm

I think my dad got a Hewlett Packard 9000. I remember windows 98. I was like 4 years old. :)

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Re: What was your first computer?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:24 pm

My first - Science of Cambridge Mk14 . ;)

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Re: What was your first computer?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:28 pm

Will5455 wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:44 am
I feel young I am 13 with a hp pavilion g6
My oldest grandson is 10... So, yes, you're young, but that will change in time. In the mean time, enjoy your youth while it lasts.

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