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Re: Why is the Osborne effect wrong?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:31 pm
by gkreidl
hippy wrote:
DougieLawson wrote:Android is a busted flush, there's no value in the RPF spending any money on something that won't push their educational goal forwards.
Every Pi sold helps their educational goals go forward, so every Pi sold for the purposes of running Android would be a win. If having Android encourages someone to want to learn computer science that's another win. And there didn't seem to be anything but enthusiasm for having Android in the past - https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/android-4-0-is-coming

The funny thing is we don't hear this 'it doesn't push their educational goals forward' for T-shirts, mugs, badges and bears which the Foundation get manufactured and sell, because we understand income helps those goals. It seems to only be used as the reason when Android is mentioned.

Not giving desired or required return on investment would be a good enough reason not to do something. But it seems 'doesn't push their educational goals forward' is favoured when it comes to Android.
Besides the investment arguments mentioned by JamesH already:
Did you ever try using Android with a mouse and keyboard? It's a painful experience. Only usable with touchscreen.
There are enough cheap Android HDMI sticks available, if you really want one. Some are even cheaper than a Pi when you include case and power supply.But why do you think that the hype about such stick has long died? Nobody really needs this rubbish.

Re: Why is the Osborne effect wrong?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:39 pm
by cpcbegin
Who need android? We have a complete operating system (raspbian) for a complete computer (raspberry pi).

If you want mobile games on raspberry you can install Firefox OS games on Raspbian with IceWeasel browser from here.

Re: Why is the Osborne effect wrong?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:08 pm
by Heater
I don't even like Android on phones and tabs built to run Android.

Re: Why is the Osborne effect wrong?

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:52 am
by jamesh
Not liking Android doesn't mean it doesn't have its uses (On of the main ones is as a competitor to iOS). It's just that those uses are not particularly useful on the Pi.

Re: Why is the Osborne effect wrong?

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:09 am
by Heater
You are right James. It's just as well we can get a smart phone that is not an Apple.

Aside: I wish they would bury all the "smart" features under a hard to get at button or menu or secret gesture so that they did not impede the use of a phone as, well, a phone.

Re: Why is the Osborne effect wrong?

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:14 am
by hippy
gkreidl wrote:There are enough cheap Android HDMI sticks available, if you really want one.
Indeed. But I'd rather see my money spent go to the Foundation and further their educational goals than into someone else's pocket.