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Do we exist?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:12 pm
by DavidS
Having been away from the RPi site for some time, i just was browsing the latest news on the home page. AFTER 4 PAGES THERE WAS NOTHING RELATED TO RISC OS. Ok I know that RISC OS is not nearly as popular as Linux, though on the Pi it is popular enough that it is worth mentioning some things from time to time.

Some one that just got there first RPi may not even know that RISC OS exists, or only see it on the downloads page, or on the NOOBs image, and may never try it despite otherwise possibly have an interest in at least seeing what it is.

You see I have heard some people (here in the States) say that they think RISC OS is like DOS, or even worse some think that it is nothing more than a full screen BASIC interpreter with some minimal disk IO behind it (like some of the old 8-bitters). These people of course avoid even giving it a look, even though some of them were quite interested in it after I showd them RISC OS runing on my RPi. A few of them are now RISC OS converts.

i have also learned that more people than I would have thought are willing to temperarily give up streming video, JAVA, WiFi, and the other things that make Linux more apealing in order to have a fast small point and click OS. Also many of these people have told me that RISC OS is a lot easier to use than the other modern desktop enviroments once they get accustommed to it (though they do admit that if your used to the more common modern desktop enviroments there is a learning curve to unlearn all of the things from the others).

My point is that it would be helpful to have better coverage of the RPi runing RISC OS on the RPi news page. There have been some things to show related to RISC OS and the RPi. There are many software updates provided from a number of authors that have been undertaken specificly to assure compatability with the RPi (even these do have the side effect of helping support the BBxM, PandaBoard, etc), and the RISC OS user base on the RPi is growing fast. The other new boards that run RISC OS have primarily been used with RISC OS only by those that already used RISC OS, on the RPi we are seeing more and more people that have never used RISC OS or even heard of RISC OS before running RISC OS as there primary Operating System.

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:52 pm
by dom
Seeing as RISC OS is included on our recommended (NOOBS) sdcard image shows that it is treated seriously.

The blog posts on the news page appear when people do interesting things with the Pi.
If you think there should be more RISC OS related blog posts, then RISC OS users need to do something interesting with RISC OS and talk about it.

Get some software or hardware working with RISC OS. Post a thread about it. Explain why what you're doing is cool. Perhaps include a YouTube video showing it in action.
Then you'll probably be contacted asking if it's okay to make a blog post on it.

That's how almost all the other blog post come into existence.

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:00 pm
by gsh
I do...

I'm not sure about the rest of you... You may be just a figment of my imagination...

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:51 pm
by DavidS
:lol:

Though it seems that the answer to my consern is that almost no one uses the Raspberry Pi forums regardless of there OS.

I have never seen any forums so dead. Not even RISC OS related, and there are not nearly as many RISC OS users as RPi users.

Before the RPi was released and shortly there after these forms were full of constant activity, and I still have a reminder to check the forums three times a day becaus of how active they used to be (along with the Parallax Forums).

The result is that I see that now there are so few new posts in a day that any new to the RPi looking at these forums would think that there were less than one thousand RPis sold ever. And there are over 1750000 RPis out there. Makes one wonder.

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:56 pm
by hippy
DavidS wrote:I have never seen any forums so dead.
Presumably you mean RISC OS forum, as my View Unread Posts shows over 350 posts in the last couple of days to all forums here.

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:10 pm
by Cancelor
WHAT?! Surely you are being sarcastic?

This is the best, busiest and most helpful forum I have ever seen.

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:36 pm
by DavidS
Cancelor wrote:WHAT?! Surely you are being sarcastic?

This is the best, busiest and most helpful forum I have ever seen.
No I am not. These forums have prety well died out. I do not understand why. Do you remember the high level of activity just before the release of the RPi, that continued for a while after the release?

Now it does not look as if we even average 200 posts a day. The count you would if there were 1000 RPis on earth. That based on the level of activity you see in most forums

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:52 pm
by DavidS
hippy wrote: Presumably you mean RISC OS forum, as my View Unread Posts shows over 350 posts in the last couple of days to all forums here.
I do mean to the entire Raspbery Pi forum. Unfortunately you helped to highlite my point: you only see about 350 New posts in a couple of days, think about that.

As I said above I do not think there are even 200 Posts per day on average any more.

Just before the release of the RPi (when there were 0 sold) and continuing for a while after that, there were more than 400 new posts every time I checked. And I was checking three times per day.

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:16 am
by AMcS
hippy wrote:
DavidS wrote:I have never seen any forums so dead.
Presumably you mean RISC OS forum, as my View Unread Posts shows over 350 posts in the last couple of days to all forums here.
Of the OSes RISC OS is the third largest in terms of number of posts (it was the fourth a few months back), so would be one of the more active ones. As with all the forums things can get active and then go quiet - ebb and flow and all that - so nothing to worry about methinks.

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:43 am
by jamesh
DavidS wrote:
hippy wrote: Presumably you mean RISC OS forum, as my View Unread Posts shows over 350 posts in the last couple of days to all forums here.
I do mean to the entire Raspbery Pi forum. Unfortunately you helped to highlite my point: you only see about 350 New posts in a couple of days, think about that.

As I said above I do not think there are even 200 Posts per day on average any more.

Just before the release of the RPi (when there were 0 sold) and continuing for a while after that, there were more than 400 new posts every time I checked. And I was checking three times per day.
? That is a truly bizarre post. Some stats, right now there are :
In total there are 388 users online :: 26 registered, 3 hidden and 359 guests (based on users active over the past 5 minutes)
Most users ever online was 993 on 25 Mar 2013 18:00
In addition
Total posts 427067 • Total topics 53735 • Total members 71736
That's actually quite a big forum. I don't think any other Raspi specific forums out there come close. Also, I would expect, as time goes by, to have less posts comes up because there are less problems to solve. People can now search and get the answers to many of their Raspi questions without having to post anywhere. That actually means that less posts is a Good Thing (tm). This is born out by the online stats - over 300 people online right now. If there are only 200 posts PER DAY, that means that the huge majority of people visiting find the answer they are looking for without having to post.

Re: Do we exist?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:22 am
by gsh
OK,

I think we're done with this topic...

Yes there are less posts per day now compared with before, but as James says that's because some people use other resources and many of those initial posts were more of the 'what is this thing'

It would be useful to plot a graph of forum postings to different sub forums like the troubleshooting and general ones but otherwise the information is generally misleading and can be construed in many ways

Gordon