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NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 Pi 2 RISCOS Blank Screen No Activity

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:43 am
by jewelie
Hi all

Just been giving NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 a go on my old Pi 2. Normally go straight to Raspbian but thought I'd give a few other OSs a try.

After installing via NOOBS, RISCOS won't boot- after starting it via the NOOBS OS selection screen I just get a blank screen and no activity on the LEDs.

It looks like the distro NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 is downloading is pretty old: http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/riscos_1760/RISC_OS.xz 2015-02-17

( Yes, I imagine downloading an image direct and installing it would probably work, but if it's actually a bug I'd like to do my bit and report it to the appropriate place given NOOBS is supposed to be for newbies and ought to just-work™ ;) )

Julie
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Re: NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 Pi 2 RISCOS Blank Screen No Activity

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:13 am
by procount
Try the earlier noobs v2.4. The new firmware on noobs2.7 for the 3b+ has some problems with oses with older firmware.

Re: NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 Pi 2 RISCOS Blank Screen No Activity

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:05 am
by jewelie
Hiya

Thanks for replying.
procount wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:13 am
Try the earlier noobs v2.4. The new firmware on noobs2.7 for the 3b+ has some problems with oses with older firmware.
No doubt that would work, or simply dd'ing a recent RISC OS image to the card...

... but I'm not interested in just getting it working for me. ;) It's coming up on NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 on a Pi 2 (not 3 B+) so, assuming it's not my configuration and won't work for anyone else either, either it ought to "just work" (at least boot) or not be on that list until it does. So, how do I get that to change?

Julie
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Re: NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 Pi 2 RISCOS Blank Screen No Activity

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:08 am
by procount
Not easy to prevent it for noobs 2.7 without preventing it for noobs 2.4 or pinn.
We are in a transition period unfortunately.
My advice for anyone not using a 3B+ is to use noobs 2.4 or pinn 2.4.5f.
Pinn 2.5.2a might work as it attempts to upgrade the firmware but I've not been able to test it with all the OSes. Most work but the odd one still doesn't.
I'm hoping to fix it for all OSes in the next versiom of Pinn.

Re: NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 Pi 2 RISCOS Blank Screen No Activity

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:38 pm
by jewelie
procount wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:08 am
Not easy to prevent it for noobs 2.7 without preventing it for noobs 2.4 or pinn.
We are in a transition period unfortunately.
My advice for anyone not using a 3B+ is to use noobs 2.4 or pinn 2.4.5f.
Pinn 2.5.2a might work as it attempts to upgrade the firmware but I've not been able to test it with all the OSes. Most work but the odd one still doesn't.
I'm hoping to fix it for all OSes in the next versiom of Pinn.
Fair enough. Thanks for the information!

Re: NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 Pi 2 RISCOS Blank Screen No Activity

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:52 am
by procount
PINN 2.5.4 has just been released which restores the ability to install RiscOS and all other OSes on models prior to the RPi3B+.

Re: NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 Pi 2 RISCOS Blank Screen No Activity

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:15 pm
by ShiftPlusOne
procount wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:52 am
PINN 2.5.4 has just been released which restores the ability to install RiscOS and all other OSes on models prior to the RPi3B+.
By reverting bootcode.bin to the version prior to the breaking commit?

Re: NOOBS Lite 2.7.0 Pi 2 RISCOS Blank Screen No Activity

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:40 pm
by procount
Yes. Seems to work. Or it can keep the latest firmware and try to upgrade the OS firmware to match.