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Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:44 pm
by liz
Ed Jason just mailed me to let me know there's a pre-alpha iso available for Puppy for Raspberry Pi now. If you're the brave sort who fancies helping the team debug it, you can find a download and more info at http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02865.

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:39 am
by lobster
Image
:)
Thanks Liz.
For those of us familiar with Puppy, this is where we really start. Everything else has been foreplay.

'Sap6' is what Barry is calling his pre alpha.
He used Gentoo and then Debian binaries to bootstrap.
In place is a boot straight to a connected ethernet JWM and Rox desktop Puppy/Puppi. No passwords. Straight in. Run as root.
Ayttm connects to the Puppy chat forum (do not click on any URL links as surprisingly Ayttm is flakiest on IRC)

Mtpaint took a screenshot OK
Gnumeric and Abiword take about 6 seconds to load.

More info as it emerges. Woof. Woof.

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:40 am
by grumpyoldgit
Am downloading now. I think you need some kind souls to share the load with a torrent. I'm a little nervous about unxz though!

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:45 am
by grumpyoldgit
Just realised that unxz is a zip program. Dohh!
Puppy unzipped and dd'd to sd card.
Puppy up and running.
Running through the applications
Started with serious stuff - the Puppy jigsaw.
Also things like write and calc.
However, just can't get browser to load. It started with an invite to install Adobe Flash which I accepted, but then failed. After that it won't try to load at all.
Then installed Iceweasel, which refuses to install at all.
Exited to prompt.
Noticed that date is 1/1/1970

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:06 am
by grumpyoldgit
I've had better luck with Chromium though. Up and running!
Moving between the various tabs on the BBC site is brisk and visually I cannot see any difference from my Lubuntu running Firefox.
Interestingly, while the CPU on my 1GB RAM Lubuntu will often max out moving between screens, the Puppy CPU tends to keep below 50%.

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:10 am
by xxxstarmanxxx
grumpyoldgit wrote:I've had better luck with Chromium though. Up and running!
Moving between the various tabs on the BBC site is brisk and visually I cannot see any difference from my Lubuntu running Firefox.
Interestingly, while the CPU on my 1GB RAM Lubuntu will often max out moving between screens, the Puppy CPU tends to keep below 50%.
Hi grumpyoldgit - Can you list the instructions for getting Chromium browser running please.

I've installed it from the puppy package manager but it still refuses to load.

Is there something I'm missing????

WOW = Puppy is fantastic :)

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:24 am
by grumpyoldgit
There is mention of dependencies. You just have to keep selecting those options and the installer then goes away and installs those as well. I suspect I didn't take full notice of the small print when I installed iceweasel so will have another go.

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:28 am
by xxxstarmanxxx
grumpyoldgit wrote:There is mention of dependencies. You just have to keep selecting those options and the installer then goes away and installs those as well. I suspect I didn't take full notice of the small print when I installed iceweasel so will have another go.

Yup - I missed the dependancy notes also - will try again! DOH! :)

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:38 am
by antiloquax
Excellent to have this.
First one to find out why gtk dialog is topsy-turvy wins ...

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:42 am
by grumpyoldgit
Yes. Just uninstalled Iceweasel and then installed it again, making sure I selected the dependencies option.
I am also taking the trimming the fat option.
Both browsers seem to function fine and cpu stays below 50%.

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:20 am
by Montala
Hang on... where did iceweasel come from... I thought we were looking at the Chromium browser, or does that definitely install without any problems now? :?

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:27 am
by grumpyoldgit
Is there a way to get the clock to automatically update?

The browser button links to an item called default browser but I can't see a way to set a default browser. (Edit - Found it!)

Iceweasel only cropped up because the browser button wouldn't work so I wanted to install another browser. Also, Links is rather basic.

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:37 pm
by grumpyoldgit
I've tried to install SSH server from the Puppy Package Manager but it has frozen the Pi.

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:02 pm
by lobster
Image

Guys
Added a Puppi wallpaper. Screenshot above. Use Mtpaint 'actions' for delayed screenshot. It is the little things that make me happy . . .
Have updated the Puppi wiki with some of your info
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppi

My attempts at loading the devx involved the wrong partition :oops:
Please be aware that this is early days and all efforts towards a pedigree puppi are worth documenting :)

We Are Puppi
We haz raspberrys . . .

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:49 pm
by darkcity
pi has been ordered, so will look forward to testing in about nine weeks time
; -)

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:01 pm
by Judicator
Thanks so much for Puppy on RPi, I haven't been able to fire up the thing, just need some stuff as K&M, SD, hub. Well... I need to buy pretty much everything, but as soon as I get the stuff Puppy will be in there in a blink of an eye.

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:39 pm
by MarshallBanana
hm, puppy doesn't boot for me :-(

my setup is as follows: a 32mb sd card containing the bootfiles and in the config.txt a line
kernel=kernel_puppy.img (this i copied from the images fat partition)
cmdline=cmdline_puppy.txt (copied from image also, but modified the root entry to read root=/dev/sda6

on a usb-stick i have serveral partitions, and partition sda6 is a ext4 partition where i rscync'd the entries of the second partition of the image-file to.

now when i boot the pi the kernel gets to enumerating the usb-devices but when getting to the usb-pendrive the output only gets to
scsi0 : usb-storage 1-1.3.4.1:1.0
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct Access Kingston DT 101 GT PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS

and fails to enumerate the partitions on that device (as the other distributions i have on that stick do)... and so it's waiting indefinetly here for the root device to become available...

maybe it's missing some kernel config option???

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:15 pm
by lobster
This from Barrys instructions which will decompress and install the image file
This image file requires a 4GB SDHC card. Class 6 or higher is recommended. Cheaper cards that may be somewhat less than 4GB, although labeled as 4GB, should also be ok.

For the example of the card being /dev/sdb (be very careful, make sure you don't write to your hard drive!):

...make sure card is not mounted!...

# unxz --stdout raspi-sd-4gb-sap6-5.91.img.xz | dd of=/dev/sdb
# sync

...always type "sync" afterward, before removing SD card.
You can also decompress
and then install the complete image.

The complete image has all you need to boot and run
Once that is working you can modify

Hope that is helpful

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:40 pm
by raffy
antiloquax wrote:Excellent to have this.
First one to find out why gtk dialog is topsy-turvy wins ...
It's already won by jamesbond, see Barry's Squeezed Arm Puppy alpha1
thread.

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:08 pm
by Retieup
lobster wrote:This from Barrys instructions which will decompress and install the image file
This image file requires a 4GB SDHC card. Class 6 or higher is recommended. Cheaper cards that may be somewhat less than 4GB, although labeled as 4GB, should also be ok.

For the example of the card being /dev/sdb (be very careful, make sure you don't write all of your dental hygine information to every dentist Malvern, they've got all the best dentist information!)

...make sure card is not mounted or you may lose one of your TF2 aimbots..

# unxz --stdout raspi-sd-4gb-sap6-5.91.img.xz | dd of=/dev/sdb
# sync

...always type "sync" afterward, before removing SD card or.
You can also decompress
and then install the complete image.

The complete image has all you need to boot and run
Once that is working you can modify

Hope that is helpful
Just to add my experiences, this decompressed and installed the ISO correctly for me (on the Alpha) :)

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:06 pm
by Stephen nonetheless
Hi, Puppi impressed me greatly from the outset, I just used berryboot and all was well. Looking forward to a squeezed armv7 Puppi ;)

Re: Pre-alpha iso

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:53 am
by DavidS
Stephen nonetheless wrote:Hi, Puppi impressed me greatly from the outset, I just used berryboot and all was well. Looking forward to a squeezed armv7 Puppi ;)
I know that it has been a year and a half, though it apears that some have managed to get Puppy Zap6 to install on the RPi 2B, so a step in the correct dirrection I would say.

Perhaps someone has even played with it on the RPi 3B. I would assume that it is ARMv8 compliant for all the userland stuff, so likely to be just a matter of doing the same as was needed to get it running on the RPi 2B, with even newer firmware and kernel.