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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:57 pm

it would be awesome if liz or Eben could test the case on one of the production boards, so I can rectify any problems with it if need be... model A dimentions would be good to have too
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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:43 pm

TZJ, would you mind if we provided a link or a download of your paper case on the wiki/website?

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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:55 pm

Another thing is that we need a decent logo.  Is anyone up for designing one?

Cheers

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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:15 pm

wouldn"t mind at all

for a logo… maybe a magpie holding a raspberry?

or a RPi coloured magpie?
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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:43 pm

How about this for starters?

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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:41 pm

http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlif...../m/magpie/

maybe change the plumage a bit to more match a uk/european magpie as the pi is mostly British

but a great start with tux

was there 2 pics?
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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:11 pm

Ok, put some links in the wiki, and put a new link for the collaboration [RPi Community Magazine].  I've not done anything with it yet (too late tonight).

http://elinux.org/RPi_Communit.....e-Magazine

Not saying it has to be done in the wiki anyway, but good as place as any and should be flexible enough.  Should allow some ideas to be bounced around and to track who is interested and wants to do what etc.
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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:55 pm

fastkat said:


A mag would be great. Especially if there was plenty of programming tutorials/simple apps. I learnt so much from typing in progs from mags for the UK101, ZX80, C64. Hasten to add that most of the learning came from debugging programs!

Online resources are great, but you can read a mag any time and write over it as necessary.


I agree. A printed magazine would be fantastic, and typing in programs and debugging them is also the way I learnt to program. I am a teacher of A level Computer Science and I make my students type in programs and surprisingly they love to do it – and learn so much from that process.

A printed magazine is also something to collect and use for nostalgia in the decades to come

Look at what"s on some of my bookshelves! 80s retro goodness! Would be great to see the addition of some volumes of Pi magazines!


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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:14 am

I found a Zilog Z80A Programming Manual yesterday hunting for stuff!
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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:31 am

As I said over in the other thread, there's more than one way to skin a cat, some examples being:



1. Website.

2. Wordpress.

3. PDF paper-style magazine, direct download from website.

4. Page-flip PDF paper-style magazine on issuu.com

5. Email newsletter, ie Mail Chimp: http://mailchimp.com/

People have different preferences on how they read stuff, personally I have a soft spot for traditional newspaper/magazine design, having worked on newspapers back in the 80s and in the late 80s-90s I used to write articles for Micro Computer Mart, Atari ST User, Amiga User, and Amiga Computing.

With a pdf people can print off their own copy.  It's relatively easy to produce a reasonable magazine in Word or similar and then output it to pdf.  But you do have to be prepared to build up an issue on a regular basis.

Wordpress is a good alternative if you want to go online newspaper-style, and has the advantage that you can update it whenever there's a new story instead of having to prepare a full issue before publishing.

I write, edit and publish a local online newspaper as a contribution to my local community:  http://thebloxwichtelegraph.wordpress.com – it uses the free Wordpress.com, which works well enough within the constraints of available themes and customisations.  I used to produce the predecessor to this as a website under webs.com, but it eventually proved too long-winded in production and technically limiting.

There are many newspaper and magazine-style themes for Wordpress, some are available on wordpress.com (the mostly free verison), many more (usually the best) are on wordpress.org (which you have to pay hosting for and the best themes are chargeable and usually more complex in use).

Here's a bunch of newspaper/magazine themes, most of which are for wordpress.org:

http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/.....ws-themes/

http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/.....ss-themes/

This is an advanced newspaper theme which I've had an eye on for a while:

http://www.gabfirethemes.com/t.....per-theme/

And City Desk is a brilliant new theme for a newspaper:

http://demos.gabfirethemes.com.....city-desk/

So it's not a huge challenge to produce either a downloadable pdf mag/newspaper or a Wordpress-based equivalent, both have their advantages and disadvantages.

In the end it depends on what production model finds favour, and who is willing to do the work - assuming contributions are forthcoming!


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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:04 am

My personal preference or thoughts are as follows:

1. Publish the articles on the blog/site etc as and when they are ready (or perhaps at set point spread over the month/quarter depending on content).  Budding writers can even proto-type their articles in the wiki if they feel they need input from others before submitting.

2. The site can be set-up to have a home page with a magazine style index front end, where each regular article gets linked etc.  Some basic tile type (metro) index could be quite effective (with hopefully not too much work once setup).

3. Articles can be made available though RSS so people can have the latest article delivered when they are available.

4. After each cycle (whatever the period ends up being), the articles are collected and formulated into a magazine format, ideally nice online flippable format, and of course downloadable format (pdf or ebook etc) which people can read on their ereaders or print out (consideration should be given for b/w printing and reading on ereaders too - separate compact version dropping backgrounds or something?).  Again this can probably be delivered through RSS and through kindle (anyone know how it works on kindle for magazines?).

Note:

Producing a proper printed magazine is a nice idea but costs are going to be a non-starter (unless a proper company decides to do it).

Clearly we need to experiment with various tools and setups to find the easiest ways to produce nice content.  Hopefully if the blog authors are willing, their donated content will allow this experimentation to get started without waiting for other content to be produced.  Hopefully Professor Pi will be able to be used too, and perhaps Lil-Pi (or whatever her name ends up to be) if we are lucky can also feature!

I"ll see if I can get the wiki page built up, so we can gather up some of the existing content which we have permission to use etc.

Regarding the logo…I can see Tux has been adapted, which is traditional, but it may get lost on a lot of users.  A profile of a magpi would work nicely I think. Also since MagPi's are known for stealing shiny/precious things, it's nice fit!

(need it to be drawn originally though)**



**(oh don"t make the mistake I did and google "MAGPI" , the images particularly bad if you search for "magpi procedure", looks painful..)…NSFW!…

Ok wiki page is built...

http://elinux.org/RPi_Community_Magazine

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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:19 am

Deep Thought said:


4. Page-flip PDF paper-style magazine on issuu.com


I really like the issuu format…would be perfect for it.

Ooo...there is even a mobile app for it, excellent!

Hopefully we can gather some content, either existing or original.  We probably need to build a clear idea of what topics we'd want to cover in the 1st issue and work on filling in the gaps.
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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:40 pm

How about...


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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:11 pm

There's a rather jolly Magpie on this page, for a small fee it can be used royalty-free - and it has a passing resemblance to Tux...

http://www.clipartof.com/portf.....71638.html

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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:19 pm

meltwater said:


Deep Thought said:


4. Page-flip PDF paper-style magazine on issuu.com


I really like the issuu format…would be perfect for it.

Ooo...there is even a mobile app for it, excellent!

Hopefully we can gather some content, either existing or original.  We probably need to build a clear idea of what topics we"d want to cover in the 1st issue and work on filling in the gaps.


This looks perfect and has all the features that people have requested on here so far.  Thank you deep thought for your suggestion! And thank you melt water for setting up the wiki, it is great.  I have registered the MagPi on issuu.com and have a profile.  Message me if anyone wants access codes so they can begin editing.  Today we have had 120 people viewing the wordpress MagPi site!  Would be nice to move to a more attractive format!.  I have had a few emails from people who are going to start on writing articles for the site.  In the meantime we can put up tzj's paper print out etc and add some of the bits Meltwater and other users have noted on the wiki for features!

Awesome!

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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:20 pm

A printed magazine is also something to collect and use for nostalgia in the decades to come

Look at what"s on some of my bookshelves! 80s retro goodness! Would be great to see the addition of some volumes of Pi magazines!



My other half had a full set of INPUT magazines too!

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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:22 pm

I must learn how to quote properly!

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Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:56 pm

Its not your fault, wordpress/simplepress is rubbish at this
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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:58 pm

I agree that this is a great idea.

I have been doing something a little in this line on my Python Blog:

http://teampython.wordpress.com/

I think the wiki idea would work, or a group blog.

I've just started collaborating with "Lobster" (a fellow Puppy-Linux user) and I'm moving a lot of my little programs over to:

http://raspberrypy.tumblr.com

I think there's going to be huge interest in this!

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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:41 pm

The Pi User magazine logo reminded me of The Micro User from the 80's, so I googled it and found this:

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/themicrouser/

The Pi User might need to bear this in mind as the logo/masthead maybe copyrighted

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Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:05 pm

Yeah I think that is something worth considering, have to very careful with images and photos too. I"ve requested people donate photos (links to their own photos say on photobucket etc) which can be used for the magazines, this can be anything from a picture of a usb cable to a complex photo shoot with people using a rpi, to abstract images which can be used as a background fodder.
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:19 pm

Superb!
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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:17 pm

love the layout!
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Re: MagPi – Raspberry Pi Magazine

Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:39 pm

tzj said:


love the layout!



Got it straight out of Microsoft Publisher.  First I thought there should be more pages, but if you think we would have to fill 12 of these in a year with interesting articles, we might be struggling by issue 3.  Plus, I think quality over quantity is the key.  I think we definitely need an editor in chief to oversee it and make sure that it actually goes to press on time.  I'm happy to do that if nobody else wants the job.  But, I'm also just as happy to let someone else do it!  I can e-mail over the publisher template file if anybody wants it.  It's 1.7MB.  If we got a flood of people wanting to add articles, we might need to hold some of them back for a month till the next issue.  We would also need an email address for the readers letters, and somebody would have to pick which of those letters makes it to print, and which one gets to be 'Letter of the Month'.

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