FriendtoGeoff
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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:17 pm

<Usual disclaimers about breaking your pi etc. apply>

I have just completed a successful hack to use this PoE module:

http://uk.farnell.com/infomart-it-solut ... dp/1902521

to power my pi direct from a Netgear FS108P PoE Ethernet switch

I could have replaced the Ethernet socket on the pi with a magjack PoE replacement such as:

http://uk.farnell.com/stewart-connector ... dp/1901301

but I fancied a challenge. It turns out to be possible to disassemble the Ethernet socket on the pi, to replace the quadpack 75ohm resistor with 2 0603 75ohm and to bring out two wires from the mid points of the TX and RX transformers. Hook these into the PoE module and Viola! working PoE.

Photos and further details available on request.

agreenhalgh
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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:11 pm

It would be great to see the details of your hack.

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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:01 pm

I would also like to see some more details on your modifications. Photos would be a great start ;)

thipi
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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:09 pm

Many thanks for sharing this.
Me as well really would like to get the pictures and additional docu/guidance.
Could you please provide it as offered in your post.
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FriendtoGeoff
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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:11 pm

Hello,

Sorry for the delay in responding to the requests, and thanks for all the interest. I've now done two of these and they are both happily in use.

This will definitely void your warranty. I chose to implement a Mode-A solution, with the PoE distributed as DC on top of the signalling pairs. The key here is that the standard Ethernet connector does not include the taps required to take off the PoE connections at the transformer mid-points, however these nodes are available inside the Ethernet connector. Some disassembly, tweaking and re-assembly is all that is required.

(in-case stripping and re-building the Ethernet socket is not quite your cup of tea can I recommend removing the old socket and replacing it with the MagJack PoE socket linked in my original email - probably best mounted on it's back and patched into the Rx/Tx pairs).


1) desolder and remove the Ethernet connector
2) remove the shielding shell from the connector
3) prize apart the 2 halves of the plastic chassis
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4) locate the quad pack 75ohm terminating resistor and remove
5) fit 2 75ohm 0603 resistors to the righthand most pairs of pads
6) attach some hookup wire to the lefthand most pads
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7) trim the plastic chassis and metal shield to provide a path for the hookup wire out of the socket
8) reassemble the socket
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9) refit to the board
10) wire the hookup wires to the PoE module, and the output of the PoE module to the +5v and Gnd nets of the PI - a good place is at at C6.

Schematic to follow.

FriendtoGeoff
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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:27 pm

Here is a [very] rough schematic of the modification made to the Ethernet socket
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FriendtoGeoff
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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:39 am

It occurred that a picture of the PoE mod working might help inspire any of you who are thinking of trying this:
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This is a PI that is going into a very tight spot, hence the HDMI and audio connectors have been removed. The PoE module is the black circuit board sitting on top. I could't think of a better way to mount it so I just cyno'd it onto the processor ;-)

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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:03 pm

FriendtoGeoff wrote:... hence the HDMI and audio connectors have been removed. The PoE module is the black circuit board sitting on top. I could't think of a better way to mount it so I just cyno'd it onto the processor ;-)
you mean RCA + Audio removed

and why did you not power via the GPIO then you could of sat the board on the GPIO ;)

but nice work
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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:43 am

Nice, wish the foundation did this on all Raspberries but directly without transforming and we'd make 5V switches!
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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:03 pm

I have 14 rpis+cameras running on PoE DIY. I use an ATX power supply and a 24V supply. They break down as follows:
Short: 16ft 5V direct
Long: 100ft 24V stepped down by dc-dc converter

The 24V worked for a while and then died on a couple. I think the power supply wasn't providing enough current so I ran 24AWG directly with 12V and stepped down to 5V and it works.

jojozhouxq
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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:15 am

Ha, I also made a document about PoE Splitter used in Raspberry Pi. All by myself ! Very proud.... :lol: Emmm, I am not professional, so if there is any mistakes, please let me know ~~~ https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B87o5 ... 1pUSElYS0U

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Re: A DIY PoE solution

Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:36 am

It is easy. Just find a PoE Splitter with DC48V input and DC5V output.

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