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Re: Overclocking

Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:16 am

Their gpu_freq isn't suspicious at all to me. with an overvolt of 6, mine can hit 565. With 8 I can do over 600, tested with quake3. Any higher causes artifacts, so I know it's working.

But the highest arm clock I've ever seen here is 1300 with an 8 overvolt. I can hit 1225 with an 8 overvolt, but at 1235 it won't boot.

1400 with a 6 overvolt is just unbelievable. Literally. :roll:
If they aren't lying, their Pi is probably staying downclocked at 700.

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Re: Overclocking

Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:52 pm

portets wrote:Their gpu_freq isn't suspicious at all to me. with an overvolt of 6, mine can hit 565. With 8 I can do over 600, tested with quake3. Any higher causes artifacts, so I know it's working.

But the highest arm clock I've ever seen here is 1300 with an 8 overvolt. I can hit 1225 with an 8 overvolt, but at 1235 it won't boot.

1400 with a 6 overvolt is just unbelievable. Literally. :roll:
If they aren't lying, their Pi is probably staying downclocked at 700.
I forgotten about this snippet of information from http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Overclocking

force_turbo - Disables dynamic cpufreq driver and minimum settings below. Enables h264/v3d/isp overclock options. Default 0. May set warranty bit.

Doesn't this imply that to overclock GPU frequencies (h264/v3d/isp) you need to set force_turbo=1 which is not the case. Blatant troll until evidence shown especially since my point about the perfectly well rounded number as 1400

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Re: Overclocking

Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:54 pm

XBMCantgetenough wrote:
portets wrote:Their gpu_freq isn't suspicious at all to me. with an overvolt of 6, mine can hit 565. With 8 I can do over 600, tested with quake3. Any higher causes artifacts, so I know it's working.

But the highest arm clock I've ever seen here is 1300 with an 8 overvolt. I can hit 1225 with an 8 overvolt, but at 1235 it won't boot.

1400 with a 6 overvolt is just unbelievable. Literally. :roll:
If they aren't lying, their Pi is probably staying downclocked at 700.
I forgotten about this snippet of information from http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Overclocking

force_turbo - Disables dynamic cpufreq driver and minimum settings below. Enables h264/v3d/isp overclock options. Default 0. May set warranty bit.

Doesn't this imply that to overclock GPU frequencies (h264/v3d/isp) you need to set force_turbo=1 which is not the case. Blatant troll until evidence shown especially since my point about the perfectly well rounded number as 1400

Good point.

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Re: Overclocking

Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:15 pm

Like i said, there is no way he is running @ 1400Mhz. Especially, because he has cpufreq driver enabled.

Post proof or you're trolling...
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Re: Overclocking

Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:03 pm

hojnikb did you have a go to get sdram up to about 650?

I've gotten 710 with

over_voltage_sdram=8
disable_pvt=1

You should easily be able to get to minimum 650 with these settings. On openelec system runs of Ram so I'm guessing this has a positive effect on performance on the said OS.

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Re: Overclocking

Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:08 pm

No i haven't tried OC my ram jet, becouse i don't have access to my Pi as of righ now. But as soon as i get my hands on it, i will try to OC the ram for sure. It should OC fine, since its Samsung 8-)
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Re: Overclocking

Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:05 pm

Just recently, i needed to downclock to 1100 because in arizona, the heat in my room is so much that my cooling system isn't powerful enough. i placed my pi inside a desktop psu case and powered the fan from another wall adapter. Also, i noticed that my pi runs mucho more stabily when running off my lead acid that i mounted on my boe-bot

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Re: Overclocking

Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:21 pm

a9971256 wrote:Just recently, i needed to downclock to 1100 because in arizona, the heat in my room is so much that my cooling system isn't powerful enough. i placed my pi inside a desktop psu case and powered the fan from another wall adapter. Also, i noticed that my pi runs mucho more stabily when running off my lead acid that i mounted on my boe-bot
Could you show us proof of the 1400 Mhz and 1500MHz clock?? The community is in disbelieve.

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Re: Overclocking

Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:17 pm

I still call bullshit on the whole 1400Mhz thing, unless screenshot of actual tv is provided...
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Re: Overclocking

Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:07 pm

"cooling system isn't powerful enough". For you to reach 1500 - even if this was achievable with liquid nitrogen cooling it (which I doubt and loved to be proven wrong) your initial "cooling system" should at least be able to brush aside the ambient heat with no problem, because unless your system is able to dissipate the very high and dangerous(for the appliance and the user) amount of heat that the Pi will produce, inside the soc/ethernet chip itself (regardless of the ambient temperature) at 1500 (if that is possible) fast and continuously then your not going to get no where near 1500.

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:42 am

I have posted my config.txt somewhere. Also, my cooling system was failing because the temperature outside was too high for the fan to be of any use

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:03 am

a9971256 wrote:I have posted my config.txt somewhere. Also, my cooling system was failing because the temperature outside was too high for the fan to be of any use
Yes, we all saw it.
a9971256 wrote:my config.txt

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core_freq=550
sdram_freq=550
gpu_freq=550
arm_freq=1400
over_voltage=6
# uncomment this if your display has a black border of unused pixels visible
# and your display can output without overscan
disable_overscan=1

# uncomment the following to adjust overscan. Use positive numbers if console
# goes off screen, and negative if there is too much border
#overscan_left=16
#overscan_right=16
#overscan_top=16
#overscan_bottom=16

# uncomment to force a console size. By default it will be display's size minus
# overscan.
#framebuffer_width=1280
#framebuffer_height=720

# uncomment if hdmi display is not detected and composite is being output
#hdmi_force_hotplug=1

# uncomment to force a specific HDMI mode (this will force VGA)
#hdmi_group=1
#hdmi_mode=1

# uncomment to force a HDMI mode rather than DVI. This can make audio work in
# DMT (computer monitor) modes
#hdmi_drive=2

# uncomment to increase signal to HDMI, if you have interference, blanking, or
# no display
#config_hdmi_boost=4

# uncomment for composite PAL
#sdtv_mode=2

#uncomment to overclock the arm. 700 MHz is the default.
#arm_freq=800

# for more options see http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
I think people would like if you took some screen-shots of the pi running at 1500 MHz, rather than seeing the config.txt - which does not tell us much about your pi speed because you could have changed it.

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:32 am

I use my pi headless so I can't log in and take a screenshot

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:15 am

a9971256 wrote:I use my pi headless so I can't log in and take a screenshot
Do you know how to use putty? Take screenshots of that.

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:21 am

I don't have access to my lappy right now and I am currently only able to use my broken iPod touch

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:34 am

It turns out that I don't know if my pi is actually going to 1400 MHz ARM. I used raspi config to set it to turbo and changed the arm_freq afterwards. Is there a different way how I am supposed to do this? I am trying to juice the performance because it will be doing continuous vision processing. I am probably going to buy a peltier for arm cooling and use external regulator for power and the LAN ic shouldn't be a problem for me. What should I do?

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:11 pm

The ram used to have a hard cap at 600mhz which with early models Samsung hit very easily and Hynix were lucky to hit 500 with no overvolting so it may be worth pointing out which ram you have.

I assume this was 1/4 of 2400 or something and that this limit no longer applies?

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:34 pm

a9971256 wrote:It turns out that I don't know if my pi is actually going to 1400 MHz ARM. I used raspi config to set it to turbo and changed the arm_freq afterwards. Is there a different way how I am supposed to do this? I am trying to juice the performance because it will be doing continuous vision processing. I am probably going to buy a peltier for arm cooling and use external regulator for power and the LAN ic shouldn't be a problem for me. What should I do?
Type in:

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vcgencmd measure_clock arm
and report the output.

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:50 pm

shalo wrote:The ram used to have a hard cap at 600mhz which with early models Samsung hit very easily and Hynix were lucky to hit 500 with no overvolting so it may be worth pointing out which ram you have.

I assume this was 1/4 of 2400 or something and that this limit no longer applies?
600MHz is still the limit. I do need to investigate if increasing the 2.4GHz PLL limit, or using a smaller divisor is possible.

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:41 pm

Hello,

At the moment I'm running wheezy hf off a hard drive with these settings in config.txt.
arm_freq=900
core_freq=250
sdram_freq=450
over_voltage=2
No problems, it all runs fine.

I was thinking of pushing the Pi a little further using raspi-config,
I understand if one goes a bit to far the SD card can be corrupted.
My question:-
If I go to far, will/can it corrupt my hard drive?

Regards

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:48 pm

I don't think so. I have corrupted berryboot ad card but not the fdd. I guess it is based on when the pi crashes. If it is reading/writing hdd, it probably will get corrupted

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:54 pm

It (the HDD) may have some damage, but nowhere near the kind of corruption the SD cards are seeing.
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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:09 pm

Btw, how do I recover ad cards? I like to ic my pi to 900 MHz without overvolt and sometimes corruption happens

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:11 pm

Darn spellcheck...it thinks SD means ad (in case anyone is confused)

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Re: Overclocking

Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:02 pm

I believe that the pi just won't start if it is overclocked too high. I'd backup the ad card and put a new image to overclock. Use it to see if an overclock is stable and then put back your old image. Also, I believe that you can easily overclock the core a lot

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