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Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:09 pm
by ramtinak
Hi, I'm using Rspi 3 model B, and windows for iot build 16299.
I find out a bug in all Win IOTs! When you unplug rspi from power (accidentally or not) a couple times(or sometimes one time) Windows couldn't boot up and you have to install windows again!
It's very sucks that's an OS work like that.

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:25 pm
by jamesh
You should report any issues to Microsoft themselves.

Although pulling the power without warning isn't a great way to shut any sort of device like this down.

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:28 pm
by danbord
Is your problem the same I reported couple days ago? (SD Card corrupted after each reboot / unplug)

My issue seems to be resolved (for now). I think it was a problem with the wiring of the touchscreen, but I'm not sure.

However to fix it temporarily (without reinstalling) I just needed to insert the microSD card in my windows 10 computer and let it detect drives. Then re-insert the sdcard in my Pi3 and it was booting fine after.

But I agree that this unstability is getting me nervous. I'm developping an application for customers that will plug and unplug the device frequently.

By the way, calling the Shutdown method in UWP wasn't helping my issue

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:04 pm
by ramtinak
Hello again,
@jamesh
I really don't know when my device is off(shudown)!
I know how can I shutdown device, but It's unusual for an Os after power off, that Os couldn't boot up!
@danbord
No, I cannot see anything, just black page! with anything else.

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UWP is only thing I used Windows 10 Iot, now I want to switch to Raspbian.

Thanks

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:11 pm
by danbord
Maybe try :
- with another SD Card
- another power supply
- Is there a touchscreen attached to the device? How is it wired?

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 2:37 pm
by Fieel
I know I'm late but I've been developing a UWP app right now, running on a raspberry pi 3, I'm facing so many native bugs , stupid things: being unable to change splashscreen background color, native Win10 keyboard unable to support only numeric characters etc. etc.

Really basic but CORE stuff.

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 2:51 pm
by DirkS
Fieel wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:37 pm
I know I'm late but I've been developing a UWP app right now, running on a raspberry pi 3, I'm facing so many native bugs , stupid things: being unable to change splashscreen background color, native Win10 keyboard unable to support only numeric characters etc. etc.

Really basic but CORE stuff.
See viewtopic.php?p=1473943#p1255862

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 3:09 pm
by Heater
jamesh,
Although pulling the power without warning isn't a great way to shut any sort of device like this down.
I wonder "device like" what?

It's says "IoT" on the Windows for IoT box. Presumably one can expect Internet of Things devices to be powered down at random and survive.

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:37 am
by Fieel
DirkS wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:51 pm
Fieel wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:37 pm
I know I'm late but I've been developing a UWP app right now, running on a raspberry pi 3, I'm facing so many native bugs , stupid things: being unable to change splashscreen background color, native Win10 keyboard unable to support only numeric characters etc. etc.

Really basic but CORE stuff.
See viewtopic.php?p=1473943#p1255862
Lol we're simply discussing a product that runs on Raspberry Pi, in the Win 10 IoT section of this forum. I'm aware of the existence of Microsoft forums. What's your problem?

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:28 pm
by jamesh
Fieel wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:37 am
DirkS wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:51 pm
Fieel wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:37 pm
I know I'm late but I've been developing a UWP app right now, running on a raspberry pi 3, I'm facing so many native bugs , stupid things: being unable to change splashscreen background color, native Win10 keyboard unable to support only numeric characters etc. etc.

Really basic but CORE stuff.
See viewtopic.php?p=1473943#p1255862
Lol we're simply discussing a product that runs on Raspberry Pi, in the Win 10 IoT section of this forum. I'm aware of the existence of Microsoft forums. What's your problem?
The problem is the Raspberry Pi have nothing whatsoever to do with Microsofts port of IWn10IoT to the Raspberry Pi.

So the best place to ask for help in WinIoT is Microsoft.

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:29 pm
by jamesh
Heater wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 3:09 pm
jamesh,
Although pulling the power without warning isn't a great way to shut any sort of device like this down.
I wonder "device like" what?

It's says "IoT" on the Windows for IoT box. Presumably one can expect Internet of Things devices to be powered down at random and survive.
Because the Raspberry Pi is not protected against unexpected shutdowns in the same way as a custom made IoT device.

And I wrote that post over a year ago, why are you responding to it now?

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:35 pm
by Heater
jamesh,
And I wrote that post over a year ago, why are you responding to it now?
Is it any lesser valid point than if I was responding to the same comment made yesterday?

It's advertised as "IoT". It is not suitable for IoT. They mislead us. True then, true today.

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:39 pm
by jamesh
Heater wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:35 pm
jamesh,
And I wrote that post over a year ago, why are you responding to it now?
Is it any lesser valid point than if I was responding to the same comment made yesterday?

It's advertised as "IoT". It is not suitable for IoT. They mislead us. True then, true today.
Microsoft, AFAICR, advertised WIn10IoT for Raspberry Pi as a protoyping system, for which it is quite well suited.

Re: Windows for IOT sucks!

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:48 pm
by DirkS
Fieel wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:37 am
What's your problem?
I don't use Win10IOT so I don't have a problem... ;)