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by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:36 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<t>Joe Schmoe said: <br/> <br/> <br/> Yabut - isn't the "Mac way" the same as the Linux (Unix) way - i.e., get to a bash prompt and wing it with "dd"?<br/> <br/> So, really, the Mac people are assumed to be as good as the Linux people.  It is only the Windows people that need hand-holding (because, ...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:28 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Some questions...
Replies: 15
Views: 2562

Re: Some questions...

<t>This is all in the FAQ's... but:<br/> <br/> Yes it will run Java, but big stuff is going to end up being slow due to the limited RAM. You'll need to install the JDK package.<br/> <br/> The GPIO's can be done a number of ways.. From basic file writes/reads, to Python interfaces.<br/> <br/> Can use...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:19 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<t>Tass said: <br/> <br/> <br/> mkopack said: <br/> <br/> <br/> There's a LOT more Macs out there than Linux boxes, so supporting Mac should be at least as important as having Linux support in the tools / instructions for stuff related to setting up the RPi.<br/> <br/> <br/> So here's a completely r...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:06 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

You bet it will!
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:42 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<t>Abishur said: <br/> <br/> <br/> mkopack said: <br/> <br/> <br/> @Abishur: You're not following - I wasn't referring to the instructions to do it by hand. Those were great! I was talking about the instructions for using the Fedora installer tool. Those WEREN'T (and the linked to page there on the ...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:07 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<t>@Abishur: You're not following - I wasn't referring to the instructions to do it by hand. Those were great! I was talking about the instructions for using the Fedora installer tool. Those WEREN'T (and the linked to page there on the wiki wasn't the one I was trying to follow last night.. as I sai...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:45 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<t>Liam Fraser said: <br/> <br/> <br/> I think you guys are both right in a way. If a user can't follow instructions to use DD from the command line on a mac then they won't have much chance of learning to program imo. Plenty of my tutorial viewers have used WinDD using my instructions. A few of the...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:38 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<t>@Abishur:<br/> <br/> And don't just assume that people are lazy... Absolute newbs might be generally interested and want to learn, but they might have zero experience dealing with the command line. For many people that's just asking way too much from them early on. They don't know where to go to ...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:24 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<r>Liam Fraser said: <br/> <br/> <br/> Mac is pretty easy to do (and would be fairly easy to add to the fedora tool). I don't have the time to learn how Fedora's tool works (there are hardly any comments - surely that's bad practice from a bunch of uni students!) I pretty much got as far as listing ...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:17 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<t>Ok, here was my experience last night, mind you, I'm an experienced software dev with nearly 30 years of computing experience on a variety of OS platforms. Our target audience has WAY WAY less than me.<br/> <br/> I go to the page with the instructions for using the Fedora Installer (and for the l...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:41 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

SN - bingo...

Now, obviously, we're WAY early in the evolution of the RPi and it's software, so I wouldn't expect it to be there yet. I'm just saying, that's the sort of target use case we should be aiming for with tools like these.
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:27 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<t>Right, I know that OS-X is unix based, you know that... Does Sally who bought her iMac for her family know that? Probably not.<br/> <br/> Like I said, we need to be VERY aware that the exact people the RPi is trying to target to bootstrap into computing typically know VERY little about their mach...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:21 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

<t>You know, MAC OS-X! Geesh...<br/> <br/> And yes, I know I can run Linux or windows in a VM (I do it all the time.) That's not the point...<br/> <br/> Remember the target market for this thing- Kids and parents who don't really know what they're doing with computers. There's a LOT more Macs out th...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:35 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem
Replies: 86
Views: 15404

Re: FEDORA ARM INSTALLER -- Problem

Yeah, I have a problem with it too....

It doesn't run on OSX! Grrr...

Kinda bummed that Liam Frazier stopped work on the PiCard application because of this tool.. His at least would support all 3 platforms.

Guess I'll just have to do it by hand....
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:55 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Post your estimated arrival dates
Replies: 323
Views: 54970

Re: Post your estimated arrival dates

<t>Tass said: <br/> <br/> <br/> mkopack said: <br/> <br/> <br/> At this point, I'm more interested in seeing if the people who had ship dates of March 12th or so have new dates and what those are now...<br/> <br/> <br/> I had an initial ship date of 12th March and I haven't been given any revised da...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:37 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Post your estimated arrival dates
Replies: 323
Views: 54970

Re: Post your estimated arrival dates

<t>Considering everyone is getting an email indicating roughly a 2 week pushback on their ship date, it would seem pretty clear to me that this is a result of the Ethernet jack problem.<br/> <br/> The initial shipments were pushed about 2 weeks because of the problem, and assuming they had problems ...
by mkopack
Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:39 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Xbox Kinect and OpenKinect Driver
Replies: 11
Views: 4669

Re: Xbox Kinect and OpenKinect Driver

Let us know how you make out!
by mkopack
Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:51 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Good news on the ARM Java front
Replies: 17
Views: 7634

Re: Good news on the ARM Java front

<t>OpenJDK 6 WILL run on the RPi (I managed to get it installed under the QEMU Rpi emulation.)<br/> <br/> So as long as you stick to JDK 6 you're fine.<br/> <br/> There's no Open JDK7 yet for ARM.<br/> <br/> As others have said, currently the full HotSpot JVM is NOT supported. But there is at least ...
by mkopack
Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:32 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why so power hungry?
Replies: 22
Views: 6170

Re: Why so power hungry?

<t>Yeah, you'll probably want to do some tweaking to get the system to idle as much as possible. I don't really know how power management is done in linux, but I'm sure there's something that can be done.<br/> <br/> Also keep in mind that you DO have some voltage control over the CPU in the config f...
by mkopack
Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:16 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why so power hungry?
Replies: 22
Views: 6170

Re: Why so power hungry?

<t>Keep in mind, the power specs you're seeing for the RPi are when running at full load...<br/> <br/> Your phone is idle like 99% of the time, unless you're actually talking, or playing a game or something. Even web surfing, the CPU is spendig most of the time at near idle (while you're reading)......
by mkopack
Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:46 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Xbox Kinect and OpenKinect Driver
Replies: 11
Views: 4669

Re: Xbox Kinect and OpenKinect Driver

Dunno... worth a try though, right? Not like we can do anything else while we sit here and patiently wait for our Pi!
by mkopack
Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:21 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Xbox Kinect and OpenKinect Driver
Replies: 11
Views: 4669

Re: Xbox Kinect and OpenKinect Driver

<t>Exactly..<br/> <br/> In the mean time, you might want to give it a try running one of the existing RPi OS builds under QEMU and hook up the Kinect and see if that works...<br/> <br/> Should at least give you a ballpark idea if the RPi will be powerful enough, or if there's any issues getting the ...
by mkopack
Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:54 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Xbox Kinect and OpenKinect Driver
Replies: 11
Views: 4669

Re: Xbox Kinect and OpenKinect Driver

The bigger question will be whether the RPi has enough CPU to handle the data coming from the Kinect. We won't know until somebody gets one and is able to try it...

It's certainly on my list of To-Do's once I get my RPi...
by mkopack
Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:51 am
Forum: Off topic discussion
Topic: Date Order Was Placed : 29/02/12 4:08 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1430

Re: Date Order Was Placed : 29/02/12 4:08 PM

If you registered an account when you ordered, just log in and go to your order history and pull up that order....

Mine shows me an "Estimated Ship Date"... I ordered at 9am (EST) the same day you did from Newark, and my order shows estimated ship date of March 30.
by mkopack
Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:51 pm
Forum: Off topic discussion
Topic: Ordered something else to fill the time
Replies: 65
Views: 14517

Re: Ordered something else to fill the time

Pandapi: I'm in the same boat... I mainly do java stuff in grad school and work, so I don't usually pay too much attention to which OS I'm on or the issues of cross compiling. This whole Linux on ARM stuff has been interesting to say the least!

Lots to learn!

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